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Looks like the 3.6 Pentastar V6 will make its way to the Wrangler JK in 2012. I just read this on Allpar.com

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Looks like thats just the trasnmission to me, mentioned nothing about the new engine.

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http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php...-remain-unique

While most Chrysler and Fiat platforms are being evaluated to see how they will fit in the upcoming Chrysler-Fiat mix, the Jeep Wrangler isn’t going to be sharing with anyone. Not even other Jeeps.

Though it’s a relatively low-volume product, the Wrangler’s unique, terrain-conquering heritage is too valuable to dilute, especially with the likely demise of the Hummer brand.

Though they won’t be shared, the Wrangler’s underpinnings are scheduled for two major upgrades by next year. While the company isn’t releasing many details, these are likely to include the new Pentastar V6 and improved interiors. The company says new derivatives of the iconic Wrangler are also in the works. There has been a lot of interest in a Wrangler pickup like the government-only J8, but Mike Manley, head of the Jeep brand, says though he would like to do a pickup, such a vehicle “is not imminent.”

“No imminent” is also applicable to a diesel-powered Wrangler for the North American market. However, a diesel is being studied as it would improve the Wrangler’s fuel efficiency. That’s important as Chrysler works to meet new federal mileage standards.


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Since the small truck segment is dying out and the Dakota is going away, there could be a nice niche market to support a cool Wrangler-based pick-up. Many have been clamouring for one in recent years, the next couple years might prove to be a good time for it. I just hope they do it with a real bed instead of the Unlimited variants we've seen thus far.

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Re: 2012 JK

I forsee many good changes to the wrangler over the next 5 years. Each year I think will have us kicking ourselfs wishing we had held off one more year. LOL

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Yeah no joke right! I finally get to the point in life that I can afford a jeep then before it's paid off they actually decide to put a motor in it that will give it the ability to merge safely in traffic. (Houston-they don't call I-45 the south texas autobahn for nothing!) and I'll admit I put the fucking dumbass hat, swallow the hook like a retard bandwagon hat on that the lifetime powertrain warranty would be worth a damn and bought one before it was cancelled, boy was I wrong.

The river raider st looms like a great alternative for when everyone trades up and flood the market with cheap jk's. Who knows, I know after the jeep purchase it will be very doubtful that I would buy american again. Sorry but between the quality and most of all the dealer service has pushed me far away from them.
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Looks like thats just the trasnmission to me, mentioned nothing about the new engine.
The 2011 wrangler gets a new interior (confirmed) and the penastar v6 comes in 2012 (confirmed). The transmission would be a bonus but that is unconfirmed.

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Since the small truck segment is dying out and the Dakota is going away, there could be a nice niche market to support a cool Wrangler-based pick-up. Many have been clamouring for one in recent years, the next couple years might prove to be a good time for it. I just hope they do it with a real bed instead of the Unlimited variants we've seen thus far.
Sorry Ram brand will not ever let Jeep build a truck......


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“No imminent” is also applicable to a diesel-powered Wrangler for the North American market. However, a diesel is being studied as it would improve the Wrangler’s fuel efficiency. That’s important as Chrysler works to meet new federal mileage standards.


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Well here is to holding out for 2012 to trade in my 08 JK for a new JK with the Pentastarand the end of the world on 12/12/12.

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Well here is to holding out for 2012 to trade in my 08 JK for a new JK with the Pentastarand the end of the world on 12/12/12.
You get 9 extra days its 12/21/12...

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get the f'in diesel in them already

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I dunno, I don't really see a Wrangler based pickup as direct competition for the full size Ram. I think it would be a good place for a smaller truck since the Dakota is going away, and they have the concepts out for a reason I think. Not sure what other viable "variants" they could be talking about if not a pickup.

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The reason they are killing the Dakota is the same reason they will not likely build a Jeep pickup...lack of sales. Truck buyers want "big" trucks with lots of hauling/towing capabilities, whether they use it or not!

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The reason they are killing the Dakota is the same reason they will not likely build a Jeep pickup...lack of sales. Truck buyers want "big" trucks with lots of hauling/towing capabilities, whether they use it or not!

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Truck buyers want a 1/2 ton diesel,or smaller.Not everyone wants or needs a 3/4 ton,but want and need a diesel.300 ft.lbs of torque from a 4 cyl diesel pretty much matchs 1/2 tons and boast better mpg.

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Truck buyers want a 1/2 ton diesel,or smaller.Not everyone wants or needs a 3/4 ton,but want and need a diesel.300 ft.lbs of torque from a 4 cyl diesel pretty much matchs 1/2 tons and boast better mpg.
I know Ram maybe re-looking at the v6 Diesel 1/2 ton truck frrom what I hear. Cummins has a engine that they were building for Ram before the BK last year.

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The penstar doesn't really excite me...i would get excited if they put either diesel engine (AWESOME) or a hemi.

I really wish they would give us americans the CRD!!

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why trade in when you can just buy the motor and swap out. Of course if you're gonna do that then there are so many other motor options and your cost would be so much less than a new vehicle. JMT...

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The penstar doesn't really excite me...i would get excited if they put either diesel engine (AWESOME) or a hemi.

I really wish they would give us americans the CRD!!
It should! Probably not going to post GC numbers in HP but I bet its at least 240 HP Vs the [email protected]! If you want a diesel you can buy euro parts and do the conversion only about $35K

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why trade in when you can just buy the motor and swap out. Of course if you're gonna do that then there are so many other motor options and your cost would be so much less than a new vehicle. JMT...
BINGO we are Jeepers we can swap out anything and make it work right?

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I know Ram maybe re-looking at the v6 Diesel 1/2 ton truck frrom what I hear. Cummins has a engine that they were building for Ram before the BK last year.

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From what I understand Cummins has the V6 diesel all ready to go,and has had it ready (developed and tested) for several years.I would buy a ram 1500 diesel,or a dakota diesel were dodge to keep the dakota.I have heard that both toyota and nissan will be bringing in a diesel 4x4 pickup as early as next year.Not sure how true that is.Whoever does it first wins....and wins big,imho.

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The reason they are killing the Dakota is the same reason they will not likely build a Jeep pickup...lack of sales. Truck buyers want "big" trucks with lots of hauling/towing capabilities, whether they use it or not!

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For the most part I agree, if you need a truck, full size is where its at. As I said earlier I think a Jeep pickup could fill a nice niche market, with the Dakota, Colorado/Canyon and Ranger all slated to be discontinued. I guess the new Mahindra diesel will be a clue as to how many people still desire a small pick-up.

Jeep keeps pumping out the pick-up concepts (Gladiator, JT, and now the Nukizer), so there must be some reason for it. IMO, a Jeep pick-up would be unique. I have absolutely no desire for any of the small pick-ups currently offered, don't even want a full-size for that matter. If Jeep offered a Wrangler based pick-up I would be all over it though. Even though I love my JK, I am constantly teased with the idea of selling it and building an AEV Brute off of a TJ. I wish AEV would do a real Brute off of the JK.

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either way the return of the Comanche would be cool.

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From what I understand Cummins has the V6 diesel all ready to go,and has had it ready (developed and tested) for several years.I would buy a ram 1500 diesel,or a dakota diesel were dodge to keep the dakota.I have heard that both toyota and nissan will be bringing in a diesel 4x4 pickup as early as next year.Not sure how true that is.Whoever does it first wins....and wins big,imho.

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Will they come with exhaust brakes, or will they be the same Fred Flintstone brakes on the Kamikazi edition Prius....
I highly doubt any of those company's are going to get into a market in which they already do not compete well in. The ram 1500 diesel maybe out in 2 years......

Dakota is going away and a unibody truck similar to the rampage concept will replace it no diesel though....

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I see no mention of the Liberty in that chart.
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