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Break over angles JKU

How do you guys deal with the rough break over angles when wheeling the JKU? My current JKU wheelbase is about 119 siting on tons and 40’s with a Rock Krawler 5.5 kit. With lots of waterfalls and long narrow climbs out here in AZ, it gets stuck or hung up on the majority of “difficult” trails.

Ultimately I’m trying to figure out what the next evolution of my JKU is going to look like or if I should just go the buggy route.
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just leave the jeep alone for street driving and jeep related stuff and build a buggy for the tough trails

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I think it all depends on how you wheel it and want to wheel it. I live in az as well and can run 95 percent of the trails out here and it's built with 37s and rides well on road
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If your trying to run trails like upper Ajax in Florence all the time which I would rate at like a 5.5 from 1 to 7 then build a buggy
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Pick your lines well and you will be fine... Also what he ^ said

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If your trying to run trails like upper Ajax in Florence all the time which I would rate at like a 5.5 from 1 to 7 then build a buggy
Yah. Think Diehard on the west side. It was a PITA... The next evolution trails (or challenges I guess) tend to make diehard look easy.

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Pick your lines well and you will be fine... Also what he ^ said
Picking lines only goes so far. With full on spotting it can be close to impossible. Either my length and/or weight gets me into trouble.

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Yah. Think Diehard on the west side. It was a PITA... The next evolution trails (or challenges I guess) tend make diehard look easy.

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please please show vids of a four door JK on these moderate trails. Why would you feel any need to consider break-over on such unchallenging terrain? heh...



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please please show vids of a four door JK on these moderate trails. Why would you feel any need to consider break-over on such unchallenging terrain? heh...
haha...It may be moderate for a buggy;however, getting a 4 door JK through there is a bit more challenging. Especially if you want your sides and glass in tact .
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Ya no 4 door is getting through those trails without turning it into a full buggy
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Ya no 4 door is getting through those trails without turning it into a full buggy
It was a hard trail in a 4 door. Myself and a few others have done it. Not impossible just a huge PITA. The plan is buggy at this moment.
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you know I wanna scream ," PICTS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN!" as so often is declared here , but I'll just suppose you & anyone else that may have been along were too-busy w/ the seat material being pinched by your arse-cheeks to actually get out of the four door and snap images ... tearing sheet-metal and crossmember grinding can be intimidating at the least ...ha


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you know I wanna scream ," PICTS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN!" as so often is declared here , but I'll just suppose you & anyone else that may have been along were too-busy w/ the seat material being pinched by your arse-cheeks to actually get out of the four door and snap images ... tearing sheet-metal and crossmember grinding can be intimidating at the least ...ha
LOL!!! I hear pics or it didn't happen all the time... I'm a newbie when it comes to wheelin but I hear all the time the 4 door will surprise you. It does surprise me as I have one but it's all about what a driver is willing to endure. I only have 8 payments on my JKU Rubicon so I'm not ready for any breakage yet... but... I'm told you'd be surprise what your JKU Rubicon can do....

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LOL!!! I hear pics or it didn't happen all the time... I'm a newbie when it comes to wheelin but I hear all the time the 4 door will surprise you. It does surprise me as I have one but it's all about what a driver is willing to endure. I only have 8 payments on my JKU Rubicon so I'm not ready for any breakage yet... but... I'm told you'd be surprise what your JKU Rubicon can do....
three payments in and I had cut my tail lights out ( knocked the stock boxes off first two crawls) and cut all manner of sheet metal up...I have three Jeeps so wasn't planning on ever returning it once I got it ...six months it'll be mine ...Fook The Bank!


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three payments in and I had cut my tail lights out ( knocked the stock boxes off first two crawls) and cut all manner of sheet metal up...I have three Jeeps so wasn't planning on ever returning it once I got it ...six months it'll be mine ...Fook The Bank!
HAHAHA!!! I --- knock on wood --- have had no damage except scraping on my skids and some on the paint... I must be a better driver... LOL! Just kidding. It's tough when it's your DD!!!

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HAHAHA!!! I --- knock on wood --- have had no damage except scraping on my skids and some on the paint... I must be a better driver... LOL! Just kidding. It's tough when it's your DD!!!
oh , until I began working from home in Jan it was my DD. lol....albeit the commute was about 21miles round trip and thru a huge nature reserve on backroads .... it's been said that I was born able to drive things w combustion engines ( I was driving a 3 on the tree F100 at 9yrs of age ) but yeah , you might be a better driver than me ! I am one of those rare and stupid guys that wheels alone ( I use spotting cameras to cheat ) so my intelligence is questionable ....


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oh , until I began working from home in Jan it was my DD. lol....albeit the commute was about 21miles round trip and thru a huge nature reserve on backroads .... it's been said that I was born able to drive things w combustion engines ( I was driving a 3 on the tree F100 at 9yrs of age ) but yeah , you might be a better driver than me ! I am one of those rare and stupid guys that wheels alone ( I use spotting cameras to cheat ) so my intelligence is questionable ....
But I thought you aren't suppose to wheel alone???

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you know I wanna scream ," PICTS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN!" as so often is declared here , but I'll just suppose you & anyone else that may have been along were too-busy w/ the seat material being pinched by your arse-cheeks to actually get out of the four door and snap images ... tearing sheet-metal and crossmember grinding can be intimidating at the least ...ha

I have a few other people took from the last run.








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I have a few other people took from the last run.









my my my ; I did not doubt you but seeing these is pretty cool. No wonder you asked and color me impressed . I would LOVE to have rock formations like that to play upon out in dry terra firma ....but , yeah...I can see that even being spotted-well that's hairy as flip. Impressed you crawled thru without more damage ...s'all about the driver !
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But I thought you aren't suppose to wheel alone???
well, it is not recommended but sure isn't written anywhere. You are believing too much of what you are reading, Tammy. Just because it is advisable to not tear off alone in a Jeep , not informing anyone where you're headed , not having the proper provisioning for emergencies and equipment for repairs of potentially anything and not crawl difficult trails solo certainly does not mean everyone has to comply with such advise , does it ? If I don't have my spotter , my backup or my wife to spot I certainly am not staying home and missing a weekend that is wheel worthy .... stop thinking and start doing ....ya just have to be hyper conscious of wtf you're doing ... ( I am NOT suggesting that you go out and do anything alone or with others that you are not capable or comfortable with for your degree of experience. I do t know you but heard you say you're new to Jeeps so do not go alone )


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well, it is not recommended but sure isn't written anywhere. You are believing too much of what you are reading, Tammy. Just because it is advisable to not tear off alone in a Jeep , not informing anyone where you're headed , not having the proper provisioning for emergencies and equipment for repairs of potentially anything and not crawl difficult trails solo certainly does not mean everyone has to comply with such advise , does it ? If I don't have my spotter , my backup or my wife to spot I certainly am not staying home and missing a weekend that is wheel worthy .... stop thinking and start doing ....ya just have to be hyper conscious of wtf you're doing ... ( I am NOT suggesting that you go out and do anything alone or with others that you are not capable or comfortable with for your degree of experience. I do t know you but heard you say you're new to Jeeps so do not go alone )
Oh I know there is no "Law" to wheeling alone... I can't wheel alone because the only place near by won't let you... well I'm alone in my Jeep but always following another Jeep.

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