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Deal or no deal? 07 Rubicon for $23K

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Dilemma here....I picked up recently an 08 4 dr JK. Very clean ride, but I started making the list of parts, bumpers, lift, wheels and tires etc, you know the drill.

Option 1:

I came across an 07 JK already lifted (not sure what lift but looks like short arm, 77k miles, 6 speed, some argent pintler wheels on 32 ish tires, bumpers, winch an a few more add ons and a hardtop). This is a dealer Jeep, was traded in, and looks like the jeep was only a mall crawler, not wheeled what is a plus. No navigation, but otherwise seems pretty loaded.

As mentioned I had started my list with parts, suspension, axles, etc, and seems like the Rubi is the way to go. I can probably sell my 08 for about $14-15k and pick the Rubi ideally in the $21K (add another $2K or so on taxes) range. So about $7-8K difference.... Yay, nay?


Option 2:

Spend the difference in my JK and actually build it better than the Rubicon

1- Superturdy d60 axles (I can pick a set for about a grand and dump another couple grand on gears and lockers) $3-4K with tone rings and speed sensor crap.
2- long arm suspension $2-3K
3- bumpers and winch another $1k-1500

What are your thoughts? WWJKOwners do?

Thanks,

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post #2 of 10 Old 05-08-2015, 11:48 AM
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Deal or no deal? 07 Rubicon for $23K

How are you going to use this jeep?
What is your ultimate tire size?

Also, your super duty axle budget didn't include all the work it takes to remove all the old brackets and weld on new stuff. Plus driveshafts.

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Long term, you're likely better off with the D60s. However how long will it take to have the coin for that, and would you even use those to their full potential?

I barely use my Rubi to it's potential now... but I don't regret having it. If you only plan on going 35s and don't plan on getting into the rocks, the Rubi would be more than fine. However you could also just as easily split the difference and just put a ProRock 44 in the front of your current JK, regear it and put lockers in, and then continue on with what you have. 7-8k is a lot of upgrades.

Personally... unless there's some overwhelming reason you want a new JK, or some features that are not easy to change (auto-6spd, AC, 3.6l vs 3.8l, etc) I'd try to work with what you have.

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I agree with building what you have. You know the history of the jeep you have and how it was maintained. The dealer traded jeep's engine maintenance history is an unknown.

And building d60's, well who could say no to that? Lol
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Gents thanks for the input. I have a crawler on 42's on tons, but am trying to fight the urge. I have sources some SD 60's I am planning to look into this weekend.

All good points and appreciate the input, need to factor gears, lockers, d shafts and misc.

decisions decisions

thanks for the ideas and bad influence!


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I have this urge as well. A dealer in town has a 09 rubi with factory half doors. The problem is the interior is truly fucked up. I'd low ball the offer and get enough off mine to cover all new interior and suspension, tires, wheels.
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Considering you already have a crawler, I would say just build what you got. The Rubicon is nice and all, but that 7-8k buys a lot of upgrades on the Jeep you already have.

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Guys thanks! I agree, I am keeping the JK, and will throw the money and effort at it rather than dump on a Rubi. Thanks!

I am sourcing this next weekend a set of SD axles for my build (found a good set complete for under a grand), 3.73 gears, recently rebuild with newer parts BJ's one new unit bearing etc. I was hoping to find a 70 or 80's D60 HP pair cheap enough, but no go in my area.

I need to figure out how the SD axles (or any one ton axle) will work on the JK as I am hearing mixed ways to do it so speed sensors and computer play along so will od some more research here and appreciate all ideas. I am going to stick with teh original engine to t-case combo for the time being and the Jeep wil have to remain street legal-ish and smoggable (gotta love CA)... thanks and appreciate all help and ideas.

Thanks!

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1- Superturdy d60 axles (I can pick a set for about a grand and dump another couple grand on gears and lockers) $3-4K with tone rings and speed sensor crap.
Aint no way you are going to build Super 60's with gears and lockers and brackets for 3-4k. I have priced them(05+ D60 and 99+ AAM GM14b) out with ARB's and im at like 6500-7k. You MIGHT save 500 going with cheaper lockers. The Sterling axle in the Ford's doesnt work well for Jeep as the pumpkin is offset and hits the gas tank. GM/AAM 10.5 14b out of 99+ gas 2500/3500 trucks works much better.

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I am sourcing this next weekend a set of SD axles for my build (found a good set complete for under a grand), 3.73 gears, recently rebuild with newer parts BJ's one new unit bearing etc. I was hoping to find a 70 or 80's D60 HP pair cheap enough, but no go in my area.

I need to figure out how the SD axles (or any one ton axle) will work on the JK as I am hearing mixed ways to do it so speed sensors and computer play along so will od some more research here and appreciate all ideas. I am going to stick with teh original engine to t-case combo for the time being and the Jeep wil have to remain street legal-ish and smoggable (gotta love CA)... thanks and appreciate all help and ideas.

Thanks!

Gui
05+ super duty D60 front beats the shit out of the kingpin stuff. Only die hard kingpin guys who have never experienced running the newer D60's will poo poo them. Lots of guys have converted and are like "holy shit these things are tits". Skip the matching Sterling 10.5 rear, isnt ideal for the JK. Source a 99+ GMC/Chevy AAM 10.5" 14b. These came in 99+ GMC and Chevy 2500/3500 small block gas trucks. diesels and the big block trucks got the 11.5" ring gear, not much available for them. Source the Artec bracket kit. The Super Duty ring gear sets are dealer only items. You can put the regular D60 9.75" ring gear in them, but the 10" is dealer only and only in 4.88 or 5.38. The tone rings are easy. Get rears for the 14b that match the D60 you bought up front. Artec makes a 55t and a 60t depending on what year your D60 came out of. Get Dodge 2500 sensors for the front for like 15 bucks a piece.

I suggest reading the huge Super 60 thread on pirate and there are a few on here specific to putting these in JKs
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Thanks for the tips, I am looking at the threads!


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