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post #1 of 16 Old 04-20-2015, 06:22 AM Thread Starter
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windshield hinge bolts help

decided to put lights on the windshield hinges. should be an easy afternoon project. got the first bracket installed without issue.

move to second, first bolt comes right out, second bolt on the other hand. I assume there is some kind of threaded insert in there? it broke free. apparently bolt is rusted to it.

any thoughts of how to get the bolt out? right now it just spins freely in either direction. can't tighten it back up, can't get it out.

I thought about drilling it out but I decided to ask here if anyone had a better solution.

i did try prying up slightly on the tin to place some pressure on the screw to get it to grab, that was a no go.
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Oh man, that's going to suck. I can't imagine any option other than start working from the inside and see if you can reach it by taking out some of the a-pillar and dash coverings. Without getting something on the backside, there isn't much that can be done. Good luck.

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Remove the a pillar interior plastic trim and see if you can get a hold of it from the back side.

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hmm that might work. I'll have to look tonight. seemed like it would be behind the dash more. (that is not coming out LOL)

no doubt this one sux. LOL
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It's actually a square nut much like used to bolt down a winch, that has sheet metal bent around it. When the bolt is seized and you crank down on it, the sheet metal bends out of the way and everything just spins.

I was unable to find a good way to get behind mine. If you drill out / cut off the bolt and remove the entire windshield, you may be able to put a new square nut back there and get back to square 1.


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Drill a bigger hole. Use a magnet to take out the OEM bolt from the larger hole. Select a larger insert with same size bolt hole threads. I posted a few years ago about the trouble I had with rust/corrosion occurring behind the bolt head and on the threads. I removed all of them, wire brushed and applied a coat of Extend. I let this dry and then re-inserted the bolts. no problem since. Good luck.

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Drill a bigger hole. Use a magnet to take out the OEM bolt from the larger hole. Select a larger insert with same size bolt hole threads. I posted a few years ago about the trouble I had with rust/corrosion occurring behind the bolt head and on the threads. I removed all of them, wire brushed and applied a coat of Extend. I let this dry and then re-inserted the bolts. no problem since. Good luck.
This works well. I followed the same exact process for the same exact reason a long time ago on my TJ.
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Drill a bigger hole. Use a magnet to take out the OEM bolt from the larger hole. Select a larger insert with same size bolt hole threads. I posted a few years ago about the trouble I had with rust/corrosion occurring behind the bolt head and on the threads. I removed all of them, wire brushed and applied a coat of Extend. I let this dry and then re-inserted the bolts. no problem since. Good luck.
are you saying to drill the bolt itself out with a larger drill bit? not understanding the need for a magnet in that case.
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No. Drill a hole big enough to pull the broken one out with a magnet and then use a new insert that is internally threaded for the OEM bolt. Check for larger insert size first as that will determine drill size. If you could center punch it and then use a drill with a Snap-On bolt extractor with fluted sides that would be easier but you'll have to press down awful hard to keep it from spinning. Post up a pic.

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No. Drill a hole big enough to pull the broken one out with a magnet and then use a new insert that is internally threaded for the OEM bolt. Check for larger insert size first as that will determine drill size. If you could center punch it and then use a drill with a Snap-On bolt extractor with fluted sides that would be easier but you'll have to press down awful hard to keep it from spinning. Post up a pic.
hmm could get a pic tonight but, the bolt didn'tt snap. it started to loosen than apparently caught (rusted spot?) than the insert started turning with the bolt. now the bolt just spins freely in either direction. can't tighten it and can't get it to loosen the rest of the way.
still not sure where you are drilling the hole? from outside the Jeep?

I thought about removing all the other hinge bolts and lightly folding windshield over in order to put pressure on the bolt. not sure if that would work though. I think it only needs a little pressure to release. but....I've had those type thoughts before and some don't go as planned. LOL
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here is a pic of the bolt I am talking about. square nut must have let loose and now it just spins freely.

the upper right one is the culprit.

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Don't know for sure, but if you took all of the other bolts off could you maybe lift the bracket up enough to stick a hacksaw blade in and cut the bolt. Maybe use a pair of long needle nose pliers to hold the bold head. Another possibility would be if you can slip a pair of long nose needle nose pliers (vise grips better) behind the bracket and hold the nut while using an easy out on the bolt head. If this doesn't work then I'm afraid you'll have to throw the jeep away. Good luck bud.

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NO!!!! I can't throw it away. than I'd have to get another one. LOL

yeah going to keep thinking on this one a bit. I'll get it sooner or later.
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At this point, I would suggest trying:
  • Lay down some heavy tape or sheet plastic (e.g., cut from yogurt container) to protect paint
  • Pull the bolt as far out as possible
  • Grab bolt head with Vise Grips
  • Drill the head off the bolt
  • Then figure out how best to address the nut that's broken loose
Worst case: you run it without the bolt that's already doing nothing until you figure out how to fix the captive nut.
Best case: the clouds open up, angels sing, and the solution jumps out at you.

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At this point, I would suggest trying:
  • Lay down some heavy tape or sheet plastic (e.g., cut from yogurt container) to protect paint
  • Pull the bolt as far out as possible
  • Grab bolt head with Vise Grips
  • Drill the head off the bolt
  • Then figure out how best to address the nut that's broken loose
Worst case: you run it without the bolt that's already doing nothing until you figure out how to fix the captive nut.
Best case: the clouds open up, angels sing, and the solution jumps out at you.

Best of luck
LOL Pretty much what I was thinking of doing last weekend.
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Well that was easy. I thought you couldn't pick the bolt up for some reason, that's why I was concentrating on you fixing it from the backside. Yeah, like the Wrench dude said angels start singing and shit.

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