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Full Traction?? PLease contact me ASAP

I need someone to contact me ASAP


I have an issue that has come up. Not very happy!
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Have you tried calling them? Or maybe calling on monday?
It is midnight saturday you know.
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Have you tried calling them? Or maybe calling on monday?
It is midnight saturday you know.
they browse these boards.

With less then 1k miles on an ultimate kit it is now undriveable with bushings that are wasted on the insert side of almost EVERY arm.

lucky it is my jeep and not a customers.
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they browse these boards.

With less then 1k miles on an ultimate kit it is now undriveable with bushings that are wasted on the insert side of almost EVERY arm.

lucky it is my jeep and not a customers.
uppers or lowers? Are you talking the adjustable "johnny joint" bushings or the "normal" urathene bushings? If it is the uppers (adjustable) what did you preload them to?
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You will have a really hard time getting a call back from them. They MUST be really busy. Call Patrick daily and you will finally get what you need. It's good stuff, just takes a little time to get your stuff.
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uppers or lowers? Are you talking the adjustable "johnny joint" bushings or the "normal" urathene bushings? If it is the uppers (adjustable) what did you preload them to?
THe normal urethane bushings.
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THe normal urethane bushings.
Full Traction uses Vecton for their bushings. Do you have some pictures of your issue?
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Full Traction uses Vecton for their bushings. Do you have some pictures of your issue?
will be disassembled later this afternoon in which ill have plenty of pics and video for you. With 3/4" play forward and back on numerous control arms there is nothing else it can be.

Rather sad. I know of other companies that have had this problem as well.

Whatever they are using it is not up to be used where it is being used.
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Is this the second Full Traction product complaint?
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Whatever they are using it is not up to be used where it is being used.
What "Vecton" (aka nylon) is not good? It is the same as the high temp nylon used for kitchen utensils. So it should be good enough for a bushing. They used the same material on their TJ bushings. That must have been an exciting drive back to the shop! I hope you do not have any hole elongation in the control arm brackets. That would be easy to fix, but a PITA.

I have mine up on the jacks today. I need to adjust my rear control arms and track bar and install PP rear shock relocation brackets. So I will be able to take a good look at my bushings today also.
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Is this the second Full Traction product complaint?
If only that was true....
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What "Vecton" (aka nylon) is not good? It is the same as the high temp nylon used for kitchen utensils. So it should be good enough for a bushing. They used the same material on their TJ bushings. That must have been an exciting drive back to the shop! I hope you do not have any hole elongation in the control arm brackets. That would be easy to fix, but a PITA.

I have mine up on the jacks today. I need to adjust my rear control arms and track bar and install PP rear shock relocation brackets. So I will be able to take a good look at my bushings today also.
Yes, very squirmy. I hope that the bolts did not get pulled and pushed to much before parking it. I really do hope so.
I am now looking for another kit as to what are they gonna replace the crap with? more crap? I drive and I mean dirve alot. 40k miles a year. I cannot imagine having to replace my bushings every week. LOL not to mention everything else it ruins. This is just plain BS

to make matters much much worse. I was suppost to leave this morning for the Rubicon with some friends. 2 of us from vegas and a few form other parts of the country. Scheduling time off for a trip you cannot make sure sucks
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I am now looking for another kit as to what are they gonna replace the crap with? more crap?
I have the the Teraflex control arms and haven't had any issues for the six months they have been installed. I'm sure the Poly arms are great as well.

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Find some arms with rubber bushings. You will be a lot happier.

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The rubicon express kit I installed rode very nice. They use that johnny joint and rubber bushings. Nice kit.

I will not sell full traction without informing the customer of poor bushings and sqeaks. Just the way it is.

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surely there isn't a problem with full traction bushings! eddie, piginajeep and all the moderators at jk-forum have all had their full traction lifts on for a year without a single problem!

they claim you just have to grease the hell out of them and torque the hell out of them and the noises go away.

apparently one must be an employee of jk-forum to know how to do this properly.

oh, and good luck with contacting anyone at full traction. they rarely answer the phone and it is even more rare for them to answer an e-mail.

you might get a response at jk-forum, but if you post this over there, be ready to have all the moderators jump down your throat while coming to the defense of full traction!

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surely there isn't a problem with full traction bushings! eddie, piginajeep and all the moderators at jk-forum have all had their full traction lifts on for a year without a single problem!

they claim you just have to grease the hell out of them and torque the hell out of them and the noises go away.

apparently one must be an employee of jk-forum to know how to do this properly.

oh, and good luck with contacting anyone at full traction. they rarely answer the phone and it is even more rare for them to answer an e-mail.

you might get a response at jk-forum, but if you post this over there, be ready to have all the moderators jump down your throat while coming to the defense of full traction!
I was banned from their on day two! I mentioned a bad place or something
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I did however call full traction and potentially have a resolution to my problem. Got a return call within an hour.
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surely there isn't a problem with full traction bushings! eddie, piginajeep and all the moderators at jk-forum have all had their full traction lifts on for a year without a single problem!

they claim you just have to grease the hell out of them and torque the hell out of them and the noises go away.

apparently one must be an employee of jk-forum to know how to do this properly.

oh, and good luck with contacting anyone at full traction. they rarely answer the phone and it is even more rare for them to answer an e-mail.

you might get a response at jk-forum, but if you post this over there, be ready to have all the moderators jump down your throat while coming to the defense of full traction!

Yeah you can grease the hell out of them and torque the hell out of them but this is not right IMO. They push Full Traction because they probably got a great deal on it and FT supports that board. People like Poly and Rubicon Express don't need that crap because their products are plan better. My $.02

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no need to bring the other forum into this. The issue is with FT, not JK-forum...


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How was the Customer Service at Full-Traction? Did they scream and cuss you out? Just curious. Glad you got the problem solved.

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surely there isn't a problem with full traction bushings! eddie, piginajeep and all the moderators at jk-forum have all had their full traction lifts on for a year without a single problem!
Just for the sake of accuracy: Eddie has NOT run one Full Traction kit for the last year. He has had two different FT kits and is now running Teraflex kit. So, I would HIGHLY suggest going straight to Full Traction - start with Patrick (very good guy) and have him hook you up with the technical guys. If you can't get Patrick, then I would reach out to who sold you the lift (and the installer if it's not you) and bring them into it.

Patrick is not on this site, but can be easily reached through PM on the "other" site. Or call him. Don't waste your time with the Full Traction website email.

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How was the Customer Service at Full-Traction? Did they scream and cuss you out? Just curious. Glad you got the problem solved.
For the record, I have had nothing but GREAT customer service since day one with Full Traction. I got my kit and extras from David at Northridge and between David, Patrick at FT, and Mel at ORE I've had great service!

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I did however call full traction and potentially have a resolution to my problem. Got a return call within an hour.

Sooooo What was the resolution to your problem, for those of us that have FT lifts and may run in to this problem?

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Just for the sake of accuracy: Eddie has NOT run one Full Traction kit for the last year. He has had two different FT kits and is now running Teraflex kit. So, I would HIGHLY suggest going straight to Full Traction - start with Patrick (very good guy) and have him hook you up with the technical guys. If you can't get Patrick, then I would reach out to who sold you the lift (and the installer if it's not you) and bring them into it.

Patrick is not on this site, but can be easily reached through PM on the "other" site. Or call him. Don't waste your time with the Full Traction website email.
Actually, He had the same arms and track bars through out, when he moved up to the 4" one he changed springs, and added a drop pitman arm. I know from personal experience - helping him on more than one occasion grease his joints. He also replaced the ends on one side of the upper control arms (I cannot remember it it was all four) at one point. I think it was when FT came out with their new end that is very similar to Curries Johnny Joints. He uses this really heavy duty green Lithium grease (as do I) that works really well - I get it from David at Northridge. The only real bummer with FT's stuff is that they don't come with grease fittings and you have to do a little extra work to grease stuff. I know that after taking the assembly joints apart on his and greasing them well it was completely quiet.

I grease the arms in my Currie kit every few months, it may be overkill, but it takes me all of 30 minutes to do all of it, and I look at it as good preventative maintenance and my arms never make noise.

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