generally a bad wheel bearing will make a low tone "howling" noise. with aggressive tread tires sometimes they can be hard to hear in the early stages of failure, until they develop full on play. with a set of 37"s any play would be magnified when pulling/pushing the tire at the 12 and 6 oclock position (larger tire diameter=more leverage.) could also double check your axle u joints for play, as they turn with the tire unless your running an aftermarket spindle set up with lock out/in hubs.
yeah... nope. No play doing the wheel-wiggle thing. Def not a howling noise at all. Kinda sounds like swirling around a tin-can with a few BB's or small bearings inside... or gravel. Running u-joints. I may change them out just for the hell of it when I do my hubs. Thanks, man.
I have had a couple bearing assemblies make noise without having any play. Once i removed them, i could feel the roughness in the bearings.
Noted. Thank you.
I had a hub assembly start to go , before it growls, if you have a flat spot on one or two of the bearings inside the track you may here a metal on metal clicking.
Easy way to check this, pull the tire, rotor, and calipers , and spin the hub by hand. If its insanely easy to spin, or you have a slight click on occasion, you probably caught it ahead of it actually going bad.
It does kind of sound like metal on metal. I appreciate the advice. I can't remember at the moment if I ever tried spinning the hub assemble by hand. Damn it's hell getting old lol. I'll try that for sure next time I pull the wheels and brakes. Thank you.
Bust out the mechanics stethoscope to diagnose the bearing. That is the best tool for that job.
I may pick one of those up. I was actually going to get one a while back... just to have, but I never got one. Most of 'em are fairly cheap but I'm guessing that I don't need "the best" for this particular diagnosis. Much appreciated.
jack stands and run it in gear. much easier to diagnose as you are not dealing with road/wind/tire noise.
I may go this route as well. I was considering doing this. The main reason I didn't hassle with it was b/c I started thinking that it may not yield any conclusive diagnosis with no weight/ load on the actual wheels ( bearings). Thanks for the recommendation.
I think I understand the sound that you're hearing....mine does something similar, but only when it's cold, and ONLY under load.... if I coast, noise isn't there, but if I'm on the gas, there's a heat shield like rattle coming from underneath, seemingly drivers side. Everything checks out ok. But, I haven't checked the driveshaft... so this thread has helped someone.
I'll have to crawl under there and check that shaft, probably when it's not so damn cold.
This definitely isn't engine related and not a warm/ cold difference. I too have a very slight heat shield vibration/ rattle when cold but not concerned about that one right now... One irritating noise at a time lol.
My passenger side wheel bearing made this noise. swapped it. no noise.
Very good to know. Thank you for chiming in on this one. I'm really starting to lean towards a bad unit bearing atm.
I recently had a bad unit bearing and a bad centering ball.
Shaking the wheel didn't reveal the unit bearing was bad. Then the speed sensor went wacko in that position. When I pulled the wheel to replace the speed sensor I could see play in the hub. So now I've got a new hub installed and a spare speed sensor.
Then heading up the driveway in the morning I heard a squeak from the other front tire. Only low speed. Figured the other unit bearing needed to be replaced, but after getting the bearing and pulling the tire, the existing one was fine. Jacked both front wheels off the ground and starting spinning things, discovered it was coming from the double cardan joint. Dropped the front drive shaft and no more squeak.
Now I have a spare unit bearing complete with speed sensor plus another spare speed sensor, and a 1310 rebuild kit that will hopefully get done tomorrow.
BTW, Adams Driveshaft had the best price on rebuild kits. I never trust u-joints for use on highway after taking them out. New ones aren't that expensive and the old ones are good for trail spares if they aren't too beat.
I'm going to really get into my front drive-shaft just for piece of mind next time I get the chance to check things again. I may go ahead and pull it while I'm under there. I still don't think that's what the noise is... especially after reading thru all of y'alls replies, but doesn't hurt to pull things apart and give all suspect parts the once-over. Thanks for the input.
Haven't had time over the last week or so... plus been too cold. I've got a few days off starting tuesday so hopefully if the weather cooperates and that girl...um... Chelsea... yeah.. that's her... hopefully if she doesn't decide that she wants to go somewhere that will eat up my time, then I will get a chance to start looking into this again. I swear I need to get her a puppy or something... sigh.