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post #1 of 7 Old 09-24-2014, 04:25 PM Thread Starter
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Hello Everyone,

I'm very new to the forum but have been longtime lurking. I've been an avid Jeep fanatic for years and am finally seriously considering biting the bullet. Because of my budget I am looking to buy used. I need a rig that is capable off road and can also be used to make the occasional jaunt around town. I am planning to purchase a rig that is already modded. I realize there are pros and cons to this, however, I believe I have found a potential candidate rig that seems to have an owner who knew what he was doing.

I am asking for anyone with experience to tell me if this looks like a good deal. I realize y'all cannot read a crystal ball and tell me if there will be future problems. However, I just need an evaluation of the equipment and whether or not you think it is a safe bet, as well as a good deal. I will link in the article on Craigslist that I have found. Hopefully I haven't broken any code of conduct or posted in the wrong section. Thanks in advance for the advice y'all.


In addition to the information in the add I have found out the following:

-Jeep has 50,000 miles, most of which was spent commuting long distance to see wife.
-Jeep has been crawling twice and mudding twice (According to owner)
-Lift was installed at ~2,000 miles but shocks/springs replaced at 30,000
-Lift kit was professionally installed
-Lift kit is Rancho 4" long-arm suspension lift
-No driveshaft mods/engine mods
-Owner has a brand new set of 5.13 Yukon gears sealed in original box that will come with sale.
-Tires have 40% tread life left


http://memphis.craigslist.org/cto/4624019322.html
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post #2 of 7 Old 09-24-2014, 04:46 PM
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What does "professionally installed" mean? Maybe find out what shop did the work and then google-search to see if they seem to have a good reputation.

Mudding = twice/ rock-crawling = twice? Not very likely. Very few people are going to disclose anything more than "once or twice off road" because there is seldom going to be any way to dispute this. That doesn't necessarily matter.

What matters more is how it drives/ how it handles. What noises ( if any) do you hear when behind the wheel driving slowly around town/ on the highway/ and while flexing a little bit... Grinding, vibrations, strange thumps, etc, etc... will tell you some more about the condition of this rig.

What kind of maintenance was done on the rig over the 50k mile life so far? What kind of receipts does the owner have? How often was the oil changed?

Look under the rig when you go to look at it. Look for signs of any fluid loss/ leakage and see what kind of condition everything is in... including any and every thing that you can think of... air cond, heat, wipers, cruise, auto windows, door locks, bushings, control-arms, suspension components, serpentine belt, hoses, etc, etc. Check the oil on the dip-stick to see if it's dirty and how varnished the stick is. Doesn't mean that there is a problem if things don't look great but might provide a little more insight into past or potential problems. Does it have a hitch? A quick inspection might tell you if it's towed anything throughout it's life.

It's not too hard to get a decent idea of someone's integrity during a potential buy so read the seller as best you can. If you find him to be not answering questions or double-talking, outright lying, etc... then that should be a red-flag.

Also not hard to quickly evaluate how clean the rig is inside and out... including underneath and in the engine bay. Hell... look at the air filter. If it's super dirty then you know right there that maintenance might not be up to required scheduling.

Take down the vin # and see if you can find any additional info on it... accident, repo, # of owners, title status, possible flood damage, etc, etc, etc. If you can take it to a qualified mechanic, then do that too.

I don't see anything that you've listed as something that would affect my interest if it was me, but I would however, go ahead and do as much homework once you're in front of the vehicle as what you can.

And as always... find legitimate reasons to lower your offer from asking price. Good luck.

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Might be a good deal if the price is within you range. My JK came with that same lift, I had it worn out in a few months. Look at the for sale section on this site to see if a member has a rig listed. The biggest thing is do not get in a rush to buy a Jeep that has several mods that you might want to change very soon after you buy it.
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I call BS on being wheeled in the rocks twice, that was an AZ Jeep at some point, you can see the AZ plate in the one picture showing the rear and he's on an AZ trail. Rocks are pretty hard to avoid on most trails here. I would definitely spend some time combing through the suspension, brackets, etc before even considering it, considering how much damage our trails can do to an undercarriage. I personally would go for a stocker and build it, but it's your money.

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All of the above is great advice.

One question... is that running 37s w/ stock gears? I see he is including gears in a box, but you'll want to factor in having those installed into the costs, at least if you plan on driving it on the street at any speed.

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Personally I would go for a brand new jk off the lot if it is in your budget. Peace of mind and you can build it the right way and how you want it. That jk has been rolling on 37s for a while with stock gearing. Not good.

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You can buy a 2013 base 2dr with Ac and auto for $22,500 all day long (autotrader online). Buying a modded Jeep comes with all the issues of a modded Jeep. That Jeep isn't all that built. In stock form its worth $18K at most the mods are worth .20 on the dollar on the Jeep. Do the math I dont think the Jeep is worth anything over $20K its got the 3.8 turd motor.

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