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post #1 of 73 Old 09-12-2014, 05:07 PM Thread Starter
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Cool Noob with Rubicon...Lets discuss my mods...

First off...I just bought a '13 Rubicon 2dr with the auto tranny and I'm in love with it! It's my first Jeep ever...

So far I've mounted 285/75/17 Nitto Terra Grapplers on the stock rims and last night I ordered the AEV 3.5" lift kit which will go on next week...I think I'll be going with the either AEV or Procomp wheels...I've been looking at bumpers, light bars, driveshafts, you name it...What else should I look at?! I typically only like to buy the "GOOD" quality parts so let me know! Thanks!

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I've seen a lot of bad reports of AEV wheels lately and poor customer service to go with them.

What do you want to do with the jeep? A rock crawler will need different parts than a camping rig or a mud bogger.

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I've seen a lot of bad reports of AEV wheels lately and poor customer service to go with them.

What do you want to do with the jeep? A rock crawler will need different parts than a camping rig or a mud bogger.
This rig has to do a few things for me...

1. Daily driver
2. Pull my PWC
3. Hit trails/camping hard

Those things considered are why I went with the AEV dualsport 3.5" lift system...I've read only good things about it and I've heard the ride quality actually improves...If they're bad on service for the rims then I'll steer away and go with the Procomps that I love...
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Too much lift. You will be better off with no more then 2" on a light 2 door. I bet you will net close to 4.5" on that kit you ordered.

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Too much lift. You will be better off with no more then 2" on a light 2 door. I bet you will net close to 4.5" on that kit you ordered.
You really think I'll get 4.5" just from the lift alone? I've already got about 1" from my tires being 2" taller than stock...Oh well it's paid for and ordered and I'll be installing it...Hope I can make it work for my needs...Heavy bumpers and other crap can bring her back down maybe...
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Yes, you typically get more lift then advertised as the quality lift companies build them for built up armored rigs. You may bring it down a bit with a winch and some heavy bumpers but you will still get that funny "roller skate" look running that much lift with such little tires. That lift is really set up for 37" tires.

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I'd look at getting some security for the rig. Stuff like the concealed carry draw and trunk from tuffy security are some of my most used items. Especially when hiking/camping it's nice to be able to leave junk secure in the jeep. Check out sidetracked off-road for lights. Great customer service and great lights. You will probably need driveshafts pretty soon. I'm a tom woods fanboy.

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I have that lift on my 2012 rubicon. Here is a pic with 35"s. I just put a winch on and it didn't make much difference.
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Yes, you typically get more lift then advertised as the quality lift companies build them for built up armored rigs. You may bring it down a bit with a winch and some heavy bumpers but you will still get that funny "roller skate" look running that much lift with such little tires. That lift is really set up for 37" tires.
Well I'll see how it does on these 34's and switch if it looks super retarded...
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I have that lift on my 2012 rubicon. Here is a pic with 35"s. I just put a winch on and it didn't make much difference.
Looks like a nice lift height to me...You have more pics? Thanks!
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Damn that looks great...I'm guessing it looks a little nose high because of your hard top and rack on the rear...Still pretty level though...Really nice rig.
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Damn that looks great...I'm guessing it looks a little nose high because of your hard top and rack on the rear...Still pretty level though...Really nice rig.
I think the trimmed front fenders make it look more nose high than it really is. I bought it that way. Once I get a rear bumper I will probably do the rears the same way.
I'm possibly working a deal on some Raceline beadlocks that a friend has. Then some 37"s. I really like the Bilsteins that come with this kit also.

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I think the trimmed front fenders make it look more nose high than it really is. I bought it that way. Once I get a rear bumper I will probably do the rears the same way.
I'm possibly working a deal on some Raceline beadlocks that a friend has. Then some 37"s. I really like the Bilsteins that come with this kit also.
Stock gears OK with 37's? And the Bilsteins are one of the main reasons I wanted to get this kit...
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What dirt man said. Too much lift for that size tire and your purposes and being a light 2 door you will likely end up at 4.5" or more lift.

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Good thing I ordered some teraflex exhaust extensions too...Sounds like I'll need them for the front DS...
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Stock gears OK with 37's? And the Bilsteins are one of the main reasons I wanted to get this kit...
I have 4:11s with 35"s but I think 37"s would be pushing it.

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What dirt man said. Too much lift for that size tire and your purposes and being a light 2 door you will likely end up at 4.5" or more lift.
Pretty sure AEV has different part#s for 2 and 4 doors. Probably because of different springs.
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Yes I'm pretty sure it does use lighter duty springs than the JKUR kit...

Side note...I just received my 7 Fedex tracking numbers from Quadratec lol...Looks like most parts will roll in Tues/Wed!
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Great looking rig.

Disclaimer* The following is my opinion based on experience.

I hope you have deep pocket$ because it will never be "done".

You may accidentaly find that you "want" different drive shafts if you plan to off road hard in a 2dr with that much lift.

I found that I change springs and add/remove spacers to get the ride and look I want according to weight distribution of changing mods and driving environments. After trying a few combinations Im now running 2.5in dual rate RK springs in front and 3in TF linear springs with 1in spacers in the rear. Its good for now...

I like AEV for their street and trail riding manors. High quality, low maintenance kits.
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Thanks Stangbuster...I'm thinking of ordering these wheels this week to mount right after I install the lift this week...black/machined Procomps...
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I would look at doing lower control arm skids, C-gussets, and relocate the steering stabilizer sooner than later.
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Great looking rig.

Disclaimer* The following is my opinion based on experience.

I hope you have deep pocket$ because it will never be "done".

You may accidentaly find that you "want" different drive shafts if you plan to off road hard in a 2dr with that much lift.

I like AEV for their street and trail riding manors. High quality, low maintenance kits.
True! While I like the manners of this lift I might eventually go to something different because I am pretty hard on stuff. I got this in May and so far so good!
I still have the stock driveshafts. I am watching them closely. Adams is right around the corner from me so since we will have the same setup I can keep my measurements when I do mine.
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I would look at doing lower control arm skids, C-gussets, and relocate the steering stabilizer sooner than later.
All good advice. This kit already relocates the steering stabilizer.

On AEVs site they say the 3.5" is for 35"s and 4.5" is for 37"s.

I drove a brand new '13 and then this lifted '12 back to back and so did my 5'3" girlfriend. She wasn't as happy driving the lifted one but she agrees it rides much nicer than the 05' TJ w/35"s it replaced. She wouldn't even drive it.
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What are the C-gussets? I'm new lol...
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What are the C-gussets? I'm new lol...
The "C" is the outer ends of the front axle housing. The spindle rotates on them on the ball joints.The wheel/brakes are mounted on the spindle.
Wrangler front axle housings are known to bend where the tubes attach to the C's. This causes the tops of the tires to point inward which is known as negative camber.
Gussets are welded to the axle tube and "C"s to prevent this.
Another method is sleeving. Basically another tube is pushed inside the existing axle tubes at the ends and welded. This is a relatively easy way to thicken the axle tubes without replacing the housing.
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The "C" is the outer ends of the front axle housing. The spindle rotates on them on the ball joints.The wheel/brakes are mounted on the spindle.
Wrangler front axle housings are known to bend where the tubes attach to the C's. This causes the tops of the tires to point inward which is known as negative camber.
Gussets are welded to the axle tube and "C"s to prevent this.
Another method is sleeving. Basically another tube is pushed inside the existing axle tubes at the ends and welded. This is a relatively easy way to thicken the axle tubes without replacing the housing.
Makes complete sense...Thanks a lot for the explanation!
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