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Is this steering box slop causing my DW?

I was in the process of taking off my drag link end to replace it with a Moog. I was under the impression it was the cause of my Death wobble. It seems now that the steering box is what is loose and not the drag link end. The rest of the drag link was just replaced in the process of installing my AEV 3.5. DW existed long before that install BTW.

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I have mangled the drag link end enough now TRYING and failing to get it off I have to replace it. Any tips on freeing it from the pitman? I feel like wailing on it with a crow bar and sledge any more than i have is going to cause damage.

I've seen some suggestions to tighten up the box with the bolt and Allen on top.

I should mention this jk has hit a curb hard enough to bend the steering stabilizer shaft. No other damage SEEEMED to have been caused but I was not in the vehicle when it happened. Ball joints seem OK.

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Is this steering box slop causing my DW?

Yea that's not good. Seems like when all else has been checked. A worn box will cause DW issues.
Adjusting it is a temporary bandaid. Besides maybe the sector shaft splines are bad?
What size tires ? Any plans for hydro ?

The only way I was able to pop that joint off is with a pickle fork.

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Drag link end replaced. Question still stands. Is the jiggle in my steering box causing my death wobble?
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What's your castor set at?
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Is this steering box slop causing my DW?

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Seems like when all else has been checked. A worn box will cause DW issues

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Have you gone over Planman's DW guide?

I used a small sledge to pop the DL off the pitman arm. Took 2-3 hits to the arm itself, not the drag link or TRE. Used a TRE puller (http://www.amazon.com/OTC-7315A-Univ...tie+rod+puller) on the knuckle side since I had the space and a couple hits with the sledge didn't remove it.

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Yea that's not good. Seems like when all else has been checked. A worn box will cause DW issues.
Adjusting it is a temporary bandaid. Besides maybe the sector shaft splines are bad?
What size tires ? Any plans for hydro ?

The only way I was able to pop that joint off is with a pickle fork.
Stock Rubi tires. I did run through planmans DW check and everything else seemed OK.

I really only get it while drive over 60 and turning left. Or heavy breaking from 60 - 35. Right turns over 60 and hit a bump? No DW Just a shimmy
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What's your castor set at?
No idea Is that something only a shop that does alignment would be able to tell me? Its been a while since I have had it done. Just had the tires rotated and balanced though.


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Have you gone over Planman's DW guide?

I used a small sledge to pop the DL off the pitman arm. Took 2-3 hits to the arm itself, not the drag link or TRE. Used a TRE puller (http://www.amazon.com/OTC-7315A-Univ...tie+rod+puller) on the knuckle side since I had the space and a couple hits with the sledge didn't remove it.
Yes. I did plan mans checks. Watched both videos.


I should mention this jk has hit a curb hard enough to bend the steering stabilizer shaft. No other damage SEEEMED to have been caused but I was not in the vehicle when it happened. Ball joints seem OK.

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There's 2 flat circles on each side of your front differential perpendicular to the output flange. You can read pinion angle pretty closely off these.
From pinion you get caster.
Stock = 2 degrees positive pinion and 4 degrees positive caster.
If the circle measures 1 pinion = 5 degrees caster.
Pinion 0 = 6 degrees caster.

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