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Hello All,

I am in the market to finally get my dream car (JK Unlimited) and I am completely new to the jeep world. I have a few beginners questions for anyone who would like to take the time out to give insight.

1. I must have my matte paint job. Is this something you get first or after you have built your jeep up a bit. After thinking about it I have come up with good reasons for getting before or after so I wanted to get some opinions of people with the experience. My thoughts are getting the paint after because I would like to change a few parts of the body. For Instance, I would like some aftermarket fenders + possibly the slanted rear window instead of the traditional box and a few other things to be the same color as the body so should the paint come last? Actually seems like a no brainer but still a few reasons why the paint should wait so still would like some opinions. Thank You.

In MD so please if anyone has any matte paint specialist contacts please share.

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Well........


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ITS NOT A F-ING CAR

God just killed kittens because you said that..... So I assume that you hate kittens. I guess if you rolled over enough kittens that god has slain, you may be able to carpet the JK with fur---which is kinda like matte paint right?


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Well........


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ITS NOT A F-ING CAR

God just killed kittens because you said that..... So I assume that you hate kittens. I guess if you rolled over enough kittens that god has slain, you may be able to carpet the JK with fur---which is kinda like matte paint right?


Welcome to the mini-pirate board. Thick skin and you'll be just fine
you guys truly have no shame here. LOL poor guy will probably never come back after that little prison style attack. LOL



to OP. paint afterwards, otherwise as your adding other new features you will likely scratch up your paint. or you can go with the "I'll paint it after all the original paint gets scraped off" method.

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[QUOTE=RHenthorn;2809138]Well........


For one...

God just killed kittens because you said that..... So I assume that you hate kittens. I guess if you rolled over enough kittens that god has slain, you may be able to carpet the JK with fur---which is kinda like matte paint right?


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HAHA!! That is a good one! Agreed, not a "car" its a "Jeep"

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Hello All,

I am in the market to finally get my dream car (JK Unlimited) and I am completely new to the jeep world. I have a few beginners questions for anyone who would like to take the time out to give insight.

1. I must have my matte paint job. Is this something you get first or after you have built your jeep up a bit.
Welcome to JKO. Suggest waiting on paint until
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  2. Trail rash helps you realize that paint is not the "final finish"

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Well........


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ITS NOT A F-ING CAR

God just killed kittens because you said that..... So I assume that you hate kittens. I guess if you rolled over enough kittens that god has slain, you may be able to carpet the JK with fur---which is kinda like matte paint right?


Welcome to the mini-pirate board. Thick skin and you'll be just fine
Wow, "awesome" 6th post. Welcome to JKO, glad you brought your opinions.

Also, BULLSHIT!
The original specification being filled was for a lightweight scout CAR.
The modern 2-doors are a (bloated) iteration of the original scout CAR.
To many desert racers any vehicle (including trophy trucks) are CARS.
Also, a Compass is a Jeep (brand vehicle) - is that really the "gang sign" you're hung up on, yo?

So . . . I'll call mine a CAR just to piss you off. Thick skin, homes . . .

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Welcome! If you wheel it hard enough, color won't really matter.
^^^ This. A little sun fading and tree scratches, and it will look "matte-ish" soon enough.
If you won't be wheeling, suggest matte pink ASAP, with big-ass 24" chrome rims.

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1 Spray it with some plasti dip to get a quick and dirty matte finish.

2 Build it up.

3 Peel off the plasti dip if you get tired of the matte and enjoy the ture color of your Jeep!
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Welcome to JKO!

Now, as mentioned above, build it before you paint it. Before you build it though - have you been offroad and do you have a build in mind? If so skip this step. If you haven't wheeled much try to head out on a trail run with a local Jeep club. See what the Jeep can do, what you want to do with it, and build from there.
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Welcome to JKO. Suggest waiting on paint until
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  2. Trail rash helps you realize that paint is not the "final finish"


Wow, "awesome" 6th post. Welcome to JKO, glad you brought your opinions.

Also, BULLSHIT!
The original specification being filled was for a lightweight scout CAR.
The modern 2-doors are a (bloated) iteration of the original scout CAR.
To many desert racers any vehicle (including trophy trucks) are CARS.
Also, a Compass is a Jeep (brand vehicle) - is that really the "gang sign" you're hung up on, yo?

So . . . I'll call mine a CAR just to piss you off. Thick skin, homes . . .


^^^ What he said. Word for .

^^^ This. A little sun fading and tree scratches, and it will look "matte-ish" soon enough.
If you won't be wheeling, suggest matte pink ASAP, with big-ass 24" chrome rims.

Hey "Homes",

This is my 6th (now 7th)post from THIS FUCKING Account. Old account log on info was lost after I sold my first jeep---Who cares about post count anyways?

Its pretty fucking universal that you don't call a Jeep a car (in all of your posts, you should probably know this....)---I don't frankly give a shit what the original specs say, called for, or what pussy whines where. I give even less of a shit about the compass....its a vehicle sold to simply bolster Jeeps profit--has no real bearing on anything offroad..next you'll mention the Liberty... Desert racer? Where the fuck did we change the subject from wheeling to desert racing? Come to think of it... When did we change the subject from Jeeps to Trucks?

BTW: This Irish American says You can take the "Gang Sign" comment and shove it very clearly up your ass "Homes".

My first response to the new member (again welcome!) was simple friendly banter. Most places will make fun of someone if they call it a car, this was only meant to steer him away from that verbiage. Oh: BTW..... You can call it a car all you want---EVERYONE stopped calling them cars after the original Bantam and Willys competition for govt. contract after the Army asked for a Recon "Car". JEEP is universally understood and known as a generic term describing these vehicles.

"Early in 1941, Willys-Overland demonstrated the vehicle's off-road capability by having it drive up the steps of the United States Capitol, driven by Willys test driver Irving "Red" Haussman, who had recently heard soldiers at Fort Holabird calling it a "jeep." When asked by syndicated columnist Katharine Hillyer for the Washington Daily News (or by a bystander, according to another account) what it was called, Irving answered, "It's a jeep."

Katharine Hillyer's article was published nationally on February 19, 1941, and included a picture of the vehicle with the caption:

LAWMAKERS TAKE A RIDE- With Senator Meade, of New York, at the wheel, and Representative Thomas, of New Jersey, sitting beside him, one of the Army's new scout cars, known as "jeeps" or "quads", climbs up the Capitol steps in a demonstration yesterday. Soldiers in the rear seat for gunners were unperturbed.

Although the term was also military slang for vehicles that were untried or untested, this exposure caused all other jeep references to fade, leaving the 4x4 with the name."


Yes... the Jeep "GANG SIGN"(WTF?) is something I'm incredibly proud to display and would gladly assign this term to my ride v. the generic "CAR".


Hell.... instead of calling anything cars, why not call them by their original name of "Motorwagen" or by your same circular logic (including throwing random references to desert racing trucks)----why not call desert racing trucks "motorcycles"? The very first race "cars" were entered into auto races as "Motorcycles" (ref: The Motocycle / Automobile (magazine), November Vol 1, No. 2, 1895, pp. 16–45)


Actually... Lets call them motorized carriages.....


Now can we get back on topic?

OP: What type of wheeling are you actually looking at doing? Seems at this point like light trails?--if so that plasti-dip idea above this post may be an interesting thing for you to do. Light trails=no scratches so it wont scratch off...would be a cheap way to get an initial matte finish to determine if you like it--if not simply peel off. If you do, it should last a while while you get the other parts sorted out.
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\the other parts sorted out.
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Wouldn't be appropriate to just get "Schooled" by "Homes"

Anyone have any experience with Vinyl Wraps? That might be a cheap(er) option for the OP. Durability? I've seen some vehicles in my area done this way, but haven't seen a jeep yet. (Also---getting it rhino-lined would do the trick (but there are lots of cons and some pros to that).
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Good Lord, ladies.

Well...

I can pretty much guarantee that what scared the guy off was the overall cluster-fuck of this whole thread. It's like the shy new kid in the American pre-school class ( probably named Omar... which is okay because Omar and his family are originally from Belgium where strange names to us are very common to them) walks into the classroom and gets bum-rushed by a few of the more aggressive students that are hyped up on a Pop-Tart and Sunny-D sugar high combined with the fact that their daddy's spend a great deal of time at the office and arguing with mommy when at home so these children have very little validation along with some level of social dysfunction which leads them to want to poke at Omar since Omar is fresh and somewhat like a new block of craft-clay... pristine and ready to be manipulated. The aggressive children's behavior is only exacerbated by the fact that Omar is wearing funny shoes and that makes him the ideal target and so ultimately they turn on each other in an attempt to exert their individualized delusional dominance.

I on the other hand admire my quirky classmates and find it amusing to watch them scare Omar under the teachers desk.

I could care less when you paint your Jeep, Omar.

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Good Lord, ladies.

Well...

I can pretty much guarantee that what scared the guy off was the overall cluster-fuck of this whole thread. It's like the shy new kid in the American pre-school class ( probably named Omar... which is okay because Omar and his family are originally from Belgium where strange names to us are very common to them) walks into the classroom and gets bum-rushed by a few of the more aggressive students that are hyped up on a Pop-Tart and Sunny-D sugar high combined with the fact that their daddy's spend a great deal of time at the office and arguing with mommy when at home so these children have very little validation along with some level of social dysfunction which leads them to want to poke at Omar since Omar is fresh and somewhat like a new block of craft-clay... pristine and ready to be manipulated. The aggressive children's behavior is only exacerbated by the fact that Omar is wearing funny shoes and that makes him the ideal target and so ultimately they turn on each other in an attempt to exert their individualized delusional dominance.

I on the other hand admire my quirky classmates and find it amusing to watch them scare Omar under the teachers desk.

I could care less when you paint your Jeep, Omar.

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Hello All,

I am in the market to finally get my dream car (JK Unlimited) and I am completely new to the jeep world. I have a few beginners questions for anyone who would like to take the time out to give insight.

1. I must have my matte paint job. Is this something you get first or after you have built your jeep up a bit. After thinking about it I have come up with good reasons for getting before or after so I wanted to get some opinions of people with the experience. My thoughts are getting the paint after because I would like to change a few parts of the body. For Instance, I would like some aftermarket fenders + possibly the slanted rear window instead of the traditional box and a few other things to be the same color as the body so should the paint come last? Actually seems like a no brainer but still a few reasons why the paint should wait so still would like some opinions. Thank You.

In MD so please if anyone has any matte paint specialist contacts please share.
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blah blah blah . . . I'm going off because I'm pissed . . . blah blah blah . . .
Dude, relax! Decaf if needed.
  1. You jumped bully-dick-style all over a newbie's first post
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I just thought you were some new guy who couldn't wait to swing his nuts around.
According to you, you're an old hand who couldn't wait to swing his nuts around . . . "my bad, Homes".

By the way, the "Homes" thing was specifically to piss you off and it worked.

I was only a dick to you because you were being a dick to a new guy - fair is fair.

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Lol---its all good!

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  1. You jumped bully-dick-style all over a newbie's first post
  2. I gave you "appropriate" feedback (to piss you off and test your thick skin, your Pirateness) . . .
  3. You went off (thus exhibiting hypocrisy)

And no, I don't give half a shit about post count.
I just thought you were some new guy who couldn't wait to swing his nuts around.
According to you, you're an old hand who couldn't wait to swing his nuts around . . . "my bad, Homes".

By the way, the "Homes" thing was specifically to piss you off and it worked.

I was only a dick to you because you were being a dick to a new guy - fair is fair.

Funniest part of this to me: I wasted 45 seconds fookin' widcha' and cost you 15 minutes

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