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Would You Supercharge an 08 or Buy a 14 and Start Over?

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So I have this 2008 JK that's pretty built with some nice parts and it has up to this point been just a trail rig/3rd vehicle. https://www.jkowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40410

Unfortunately, we are slimming down our vehicle fleet and the tow rig has to go which means I'll be commuting in the JK. It's painfully slow and not that fun to commute in so I have been considering selling it and getting a 13 or 14 with the more powerful motor. I'm curious as to everyone's thoughts as to whether I should keep it and supercharge it or to sell it and go with a new rig with the newer motor.

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i love my 12 with a manual 4.10s and 35s. youve got a lot of work in that rig.... do a cost comparison.

a corvette swap i saw at jeep beach was awesome.
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I've got a supercharged 2007 (Sprintex) and my wife has a 2012 Rubi. I'd go with the new 3.6 motor all day long over a supercharged 3.8.

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A supercharged 3.8 is barely more powerful than a stock 3.6. Not worth the $$.

I would say go for a used 2012, swap all your parts and then supercharger that.
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Isn't' a Hemi kit near the same cost as a supercharger? Can you and some friends do the swap?

A built 08 w/ a 5.7 Hemi > a stock 14
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Not the perfect comparison but---

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The 12 completely blows my 07 away flat out up to about 4500- 5000 RPM's. Despite haveing a heavier wheel and tire setup and taller gears. In the 07's defense the slushbox sucked and the sedan is naturally heavier.

Plus, my milage went from 8/14 on the 07 to 16/22 now on the 12.
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Isn't' a Hemi kit near the same cost as a supercharger? Can you and some friends do the swap?

A built 08 w/ a 5.7 Hemi > a stock 14
By "the same" you mean $3500-$5000 for the components, $3000+ for the engine+tranny, and 40 hours/$10000 worth of labor same? Superchargers cost $5000 new and install in 6 hours in your driveway.

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Good to know. Thanks.

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Isn't' a Hemi kit near the same cost as a supercharger? Can you and some friends do the swap?

A built 08 w/ a 5.7 Hemi > a stock 14
Sadly the Hemi "kits" dont inclue the Hemi or tranny. DIY usually runs 12-15k range on Hemi when all is said and done (depending on what engine you source). Ripp is 5k DIY.
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By "the same" you mean $3500-$5000 for the components, $3000+ for the engine+tranny, and 40 hours/$10000 worth of labor same? Superchargers cost $5000 new and install in 6 hours in your driveway.
Well I can't find it now, of course. I will try again later, I found it via youtube last time. Someone has a $6800ish 5.7 Hemi "kit" that includes crate motor, adapters, cpu, harness, etc. Supposedly it's a complete kit and all the dash gauges work. As for the hours, that is why I asked if they could install it themselves...

I have not seen the $5k supercharger yet and I'm sure there are other things to buy there too!

Lets not forget 2014 Jeeps are not free either....

Hemi 08 > stock 14

Supercharged 08 < stock 14
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Depending on what parts you're talking about many may not swap over from an 08 to a 13 or a 14. Drivetrain is different, interior is different, etc.

I have an 08 and have considered going newer but I'd have to replace a majority of my parts.

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I was wrong.. kit EXcludes the motor.

Still, it's cheaper then a 2014 that needs many new aftermarket parts, like GenRight said and tabs, tax, title, shipping, etc... Plus the cash loss you take from selling an outfitted 08. With that kind of money, a 6.4 twin supercharged 08 on 37's might be kinda cool
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Supercharger kits are complete, nothing more that has to be purchased.

I had a Sprintex on my 07 until recently I sold the SC, and I do miss it. Had the chance to switch up to a new Jeep recently, but decided that the added money difference and the extra money to mod back to where I am now, just wasn't worth it.
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One thing I would factor in is that for some reason JK's have taken the Wrangler value retention to a whole new level of crazy. It's like they don't depreciate and mods actually add completely to the value.

I'd be leaning towards selling your rig and buying a new one and starting over.

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I would say ls swap ftw. Imo ls is much better than the hemi swap for a number of reasons, but that can be debated. But number wise a 08 rubi with 50k miles kbb trade in is $24k. What does a new rubi go for like $38k+(just guessing). If you didnt want to spend the money for that you would probably be best just selling yours yourself then starting fresh.

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Timmay, if it's going to be your DD, get a new one, you'll enjoy having the use of cruise control.

just my thoughts, oh yeah and because I went the supercharger route once, did not work out well.

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I bought new and I LOVE IT! the power output is so much better. Im not even thinking about a HEMI

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Timmay, if it's going to be your DD, get a new one, you'll enjoy having the use of cruise control.

just my thoughts, oh yeah and because I went the supercharger route once, did not work out well.
Thanks LIKA. I'm also thinking that I want a hard top and hard doors for my daily driver.

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I would say ls swap ftw. Imo ls is much better than the hemi swap for a number of reasons, but that can be debated. But number wise a 08 rubi with 50k miles kbb trade in is $24k. What does a new rubi go for like $38k+(just guessing). If you didnt want to spend the money for that you would probably be best just selling yours yourself then starting fresh.
this is the way we're going once the 3.8 dies. we'll most likely do a 5.3 to keep the cost down and still make good power for a DD. right now it's our 3rd vehicle, but will be used on a daily basis starting Jan '15

our '08 has about 85K on it, so who knows.



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Well I can't find it now, of course. I will try again later, I found it via youtube last time. Someone has a $6800ish 5.7 Hemi "kit" that includes crate motor, adapters, cpu, harness, etc. Supposedly it's a complete kit and all the dash gauges work. As for the hours, that is why I asked if they could install it themselves...

I have not seen the $5k supercharger yet and I'm sure there are other things to buy there too!

Lets not forget 2014 Jeeps are not free either....

Hemi 08 > stock 14

Supercharged 08 < stock 14
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I would go the way of the new Jeep if I were you. I've gone from the 3.8 to the 3.6 and now back to the 3.8. The 3.8 flat out sucks. LOL

I've driven LS swapped JKs (6.2 and 5.3) and 5.7 HEMI JKs and I would hands down take the HEMI over the LS because the 6L80E's lifeless shifting and torque management BS on those powertrains sucks the fun right out of them for me. That being said, the 3.6 never once made me consider doing a motor swap.

I drove my 2012 JKU for over 20K miles on 37s with 3.73s with nothing more than a ProCal installed and I was never unhappy with the power. I re-geared it to 4.56 just before I sold it (buyer's request) and it was even better.

The new interior is a huge upgrade too. 2013+ seats are all day comfortable and the little changes they made in the door panels, console, and smaller diameter steering wheel really make a big difference.

Go spend that money brother!

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