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Probably been asked and answered a couple hundred times but....

I have a 2010 Unlimited with the hard top.

It's my understanding that to run a frameless soft top I will require a windshield header bar and a tailgate bar. I assume these will need to be removed to re-install my hard top correct?

Are there any aftermarket frameless tops that don't require those additional pieces and attach in some other way?

To be clear I know there are shades/cargo nets that attach to the roll bars that don't require those. I'm asking only about soft tops that will seal out the weather. I live in Illinois and I park my jeep outside. I would like to keep the interior nice but have the ability to got completely topless on the fly if I'm out and about.

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to the best of my knowledge (no hard top here) you will not atach anything to the jeep itself... the header and the tail gate bar are atached to the top itself

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the ones I've had (stock soft top and a trektop NX frameless) both use plastic pieces that "clip" onto the tub on either side of the tailgate opening. The tailgate bar snaps into these, and usually remains fastened to the top. It's an easy matter to unclip them when switching to the hardtop.

For the header, every top the NX was just like the stock top, the header bar was attached to the fabric and unless you were disassembling it for some reason, was never removed from the canvas. When you removed the top, the header came with it.

I don't know which frameless top you are thinking of, but in my mind getting it of to install the hardtop is a trivial matter.

I hope that helps and does not sound too much like gibberish.

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So if I understand correctly the soft tops have something on the like a tonneau cover for a truck bed does?

If that's the case wouldn't I need to purchase this windshield channel for the soft top to hook into?

Either way you're saying that it's easy to pop these channels off and throw the hardtop back on right?

Guess maybe I'm over thinking it

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So if I understand correctly the soft tops have something on the like a tonneau cover for a truck bed does?

If that's the case wouldn't I need to purchase this windshield channel for the soft top to hook into?

Either way you're saying that it's easy to pop these channels off and throw the hardtop back on right?

Guess maybe I'm over thinking it
I believe those are for the bikini/safari style tops, basically just for wind and sun shade. Most full enclosure tops I'm aware of like stock n trek top have the windshield header attached as mentioned earlier...
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this is what the NX top header looks like. It's different that what the bikini tops use, and comes with the top, at least mine did.


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You are way overthinking this. You need a header bar to hold the front of the soft top to the hold downs on the inside of the windshield frame. You will also need the tailgate bar to hold down the back window to the tailgate.

Depending on soft top you will need the frames on the sides to keep the weather out and hold the soft top down.


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To my knowledge, they all will be trivial to remove when it comes time to put the hardtop back on.

If you buy a bikini top, you will likely need the header. You might need a tailgate bar for some of them, but only if they go all the way down to the top edge of the tailgate...

The frameless NX top came with everything I needed to completely seal the Jeep.

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jeep-Wrangle...c3830f&vxp=mtr

This was the type of frameless top I was considering.

It says on the listing.....

- NOTE: Requires windshield channel, factory soft top door surrounds, and rear tailgate bar. If the soft top is replacing a hard top, these parts are required and can be purchased separately.

I was just curious if there was a top like this one out there that wouldn't require all this other stuff. Looks like I'll probably be better off (cost wise) buying what Guruman has.

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jeep-Wrangle...c3830f&vxp=mtr

This was the type of frameless top I was considering.

It says on the listing.....

- NOTE: Requires windshield channel, factory soft top door surrounds, and rear tailgate bar. If the soft top is replacing a hard top, these parts are required and can be purchased separately.

I was just curious if there was a top like this one out there that wouldn't require all this other stuff. Looks like I'll probably be better off (cost wise) buying what Guruman has.

Thanks
That one is different than the NX top I have. I don't know why they would not include the header and tailgate bar, but whatever.... if you need them, get them. It'll be an added expense, but I don't think it'll add much to the complexity of getting the hardtop back on when the time comes.

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This is for the TJ, but it's probably not much different for a JK.

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