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All wheels off at once... best/safest way to lift/support?

I'm going to do my first tire rotation in about 2 weeks, and when I pull the wheels off I'd like to plasti-dip them. It'd be nice to do all five at once rather than do 'em in pairs.

I'll have a floor jack and jack stands (I have two, but could always grab two more matching ones from Harbor Freight).

I read somewhere about putting the front on stands and lifting the rear from the pumpkin with the floor jack - but three points of support concerns me.

Is it safe to support all four corners of the Jeep on jack stands? And if so, What's the safest way to get it up on the stands?

If not, what's the best way to accomplish "all wheels off" without a lift in the garage?
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I read somewhere about putting the front on stands and lifting the rear from the pumpkin with the floor jack - but three points of support concerns me.
I do this but with four stands ONLY. Get the front axle supported then do the rear and lower it onto the second set of stands. I leave the jack there for a little extra support.

Just be sure the stands are large enough footprint, not the little car stands. And be sure the jack rolls well or you can pull the front stands back while it's lifting the rear.

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Put all four tires under the frame after you get it on jackstands, just in case something happens the jeep will land on the tires.

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Put all four tires under the frame after you get it on jackstands, just in case something happens the jeep will land on the tires.
But if I'm dipping the wheels, they'll be off to the side where I'm spraying and I won't have tires to put under it. Alternatives?
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Maybe if i read your whole post instead of what I thought I was reading.

I would get the best jackstands then and leave the jack under the rear axle.

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Get the 6 ton jack stands from Harbor freight. You will need them mostly for the additional height they give you, but they are the perfect size for the Jeep. And they are cheap.

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I'm going to do my first tire rotation in about 2 weeks, and when I pull the wheels off I'd like to plasti-dip them. It'd be nice to do all five at once rather than do 'em in pairs.

I'll have a floor jack and jack stands (I have two, but could always grab two more matching ones from Harbor Freight).

I read somewhere about putting the front on stands and lifting the rear from the pumpkin with the floor jack - but three points of support concerns me.

Is it safe to support all four corners of the Jeep on jack stands? And if so, What's the safest way to get it up on the stands?

If not, what's the best way to accomplish "all wheels off" without a lift in the garage?
if you cant shake the jeep then its not safe, 4 jack stands under the axles closest to the brakes.

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3 ton jack stands work fine for this. Sears has a pair now for like $20. PN 00950159000P

With the shorter jack stands just use them under the axle and not the frame.
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3 ton jack stands work fine for this. Sears has a pair now for like $20. PN 00950159000P

With the shorter jack stands just use them under the axle and not the frame.
No one has suggested using jack stands on the frame for a 4 tire rotation.

for $27 more per pair you can get the HF 6 ton.

The 3 ton are short and only really work on stock wheels and even then they have a much narrower footprint. I'm not trusting 4 of these narrow things

The 6 ton versions are much wider, taller to allow use of bigger tires and much more sturdy.

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Maybe I've just got a bigger jeep than most people, but no way I'd be without my set of 12ton stands for doing jeep work. The 6tons always seem to be at worst a hair short or at best fully extended, when placed on the frame and the suspension cycled. The 12's I can usually get away with only a few notches up.
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Maybe I've just got a bigger jeep than most people, but no way I'd be without my set of 12ton stands for doing jeep work. The 6tons always seem to be at worst a hair short or at best fully extended, when placed on the frame and the suspension cycled. The 12's I can usually get away with only a few notches up.
Thats what I have under the jeep right now. Been holding the jeep up for three weeks now while I work on the back axle.

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Maybe I've just got a bigger jeep than most people, but no way I'd be without my set of 12ton stands for doing jeep work. The 6tons always seem to be at worst a hair short or at best fully extended, when placed on the frame and the suspension cycled. The 12's I can usually get away with only a few notches up.
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Thats what I have under the jeep right now. Been holding the jeep up for three weeks now while I work on the back axle.
X 2 (3?) 6 tons under the axles or 12 tons under the frame. Nothing wrong with just using the ones under the axles. And depending on what kind of place you have to do this, it could actually be less stable under the frame because the stands are closer together unless you put them under the frame horns at each end. If you're worried about only having three points of support while you're getting the stands under the rear axle, just leave the front wheels in place until you get the whole thing in the air. But be sure to do one end at a time, not the side.

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