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post #1 of 26 Old 03-17-2014, 06:55 PM Thread Starter
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How risky a running without a spare on daily driver?

While I would not want to run sans spare on the trail out of fear of popping a bead while aired down, running without a spare for daily driving seems doable. I have onboard air (arb dual) and a decent tire plug kit.

I run 37" MTRs on sock rubi wheels. I suppose in a pinch, I could come home and fling the 37" spare into the mini van if the tire cannot be repaired.

Anyone done this long term? Bad idea?
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I'd do it with my trail grapplers without worrying much. I'd have air and plugs and be pretty much good-to-go

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Worst case you would have to call road side assistance.

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The odds of getting a flat really depend on a huge number of variables, but given that you llive in Northern CA and assuming the MTRs are fairly new and you aren't doing an excessive amount of driving each day, the probability is very slim. As long as you don't have a job that depends above all on your timeliness, ditch the spare and take the risk.

What's the down side to running with the spare on the back, though? With 37s, I can't imagine you're concerned about MPGs, lol.if you already have a tire carrier that can support a 37, what's the harm in just leaving it there?

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i ditched mine about 6 months ago...no looking back. road side assistance costs me less than 2 dollars a month on my insurance policy. i may add a tire/carrier but for now its OBA and a plug kit. 7 jeeps and 0 tire changes...i do throw it in the back on the trail though

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It's not clear what roadside assistance would buy me unless they could reset a popped bead or have 37" in stock on the truck for when tire plugs don't work.

Anyway, it sounds low risk with onboard air and a good plug kit.

The idea here is indeed to save a little weight. Seems like it would prolong the life of the spare a little too, keeping it out of the sun.
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Rotate that spare in with the others and get 25% more life from the set of tires.

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Keeping the spare in rotation would be part of the plan.
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Running on newer 37" tires I'd say your chances of getting a flat are slim to none.

However, in general I'd NOT rely on Roadside Assistance for flats.

Firstly, Chrysler's Roadside Assistance will NOT cover you in case of a flat --as I rudely found out one time I got a flat on my Challenger SRT 392...which, to add insult to injury, comes with NO spare tire from the factory. You will need membership to AAA or some other roadside service.

Secondly, you will be waiting for a LONG time for Assistance to arrive. Now, a 37" tire is not easy to lift on or off the carrier, but if you have someone to give you a hand, you will be on your way before they even dispatched that tow truck.

Finally, if you were to get a flat out of cell reception, you will have one hell of a time getting through to Roadside Assistance

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Normal running I don't worry about it, just keep a plug kit on hand. Long trips I like to have the spare on hand in case it's needed. I have a full-size matching spare for my truck and my Jeep and don't carry either.
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I have road side assistance through my auto ins. It's like $5.00/mo for the jeep and the wife's car. Also, it's offered by AT&T cell for about $5.00/mo per cell. If you carry a plug kit, when you call roadside, you just need to tell them you need air. By the time they get there, you should have the plug cemented in there and ready for air.

Yeah, you might wait about 45 mins for the truck to show up. Like everything else, it's a trade off. I stopped carrying a spare 3 years ago around town. On the trail, always have it with me.

I've been meaning to mount my CO2 tank in the back, but haven't gotten around to it.

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Local driving, never carry my spare. Any time I go out of town, wheelin or not, I carry my spare.
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I have a plug kit, OBA and Nitto Trail Grapplers, I am not worried about it.

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I used to keep road side assistance for the wife in case she let the battery go dead or got a flat when I wasn't around.

Now the mini van has onboard air and plugs. Well... because I did not like the dual pump slime unit or the cheap slime plugs for use with the jeep so they got punted to the van.

In reflecting on all of the flats that I have ever gotten, they've been pretty much 99% nails and screws and such for all other previous vehicles combined.

The one sidewall puncture that I did incur in the bimmer could have been saved by the arb goodies if I had had them at the time.

think i'll order up that tramp stamp today.
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Air, lighter fluid, match, beads are no problem.

Depends on how far from civilization you're going.


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Air, lighter fluid, match, beads are no problem.

Depends on how far from civilization you're going.
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Wow... I'm an old tech and have never even heard of that method. Pretty damned cool for no tools. Sounds cool too. I still have an old set of ear protectors that. Could toss it in the tool bag too.
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Wow... I'm an old tech and have never even heard of that method. Pretty damned cool for no tools. Sounds cool too. I still have an old set of ear protectors that. Could toss it in the tool bag too.
But the guy in the video isn't very smart. Try throwing a match instead of spraying the starter fluid over a lighter.

I used to use this method 25 years ago when I worked in the heavy equipment industry. Not many other way to get a bead on a tire in the field.


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Wow... I'm an old tech and have never even heard of that method. Pretty damned cool for no tools. Sounds cool too. I still have an old set of ear protectors that. Could toss it in the tool bag too.
We used to use carb starting fluid and a lighter to seat the beads on big tires like 44" swampers.
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While I would not want to run sans spare on the trail out of fear of popping a bead while aired down, running without a spare for daily driving seems doable. I have onboard air (arb dual) and a decent tire plug kit.

I run 37" MTRs on sock rubi wheels. I suppose in a pinch, I could come home and fling the 37" spare into the mini van if the tire cannot be repaired.

Anyone done this long term? Bad idea?
I wouldnt worry about a flat most 37" are 10 ply, and nails have a hard time piercing that. What i would be concerned about is that if you live in an area with bad weather like snow, heavy rain, or ice is the weight ratio from front to back, the extra 100 lbs (around 40 stock) helps a lot on traction. I also have 37" tires and being lifted the scariest thing is not sliding on ice, its getting traction again while floating sideways down the road. The extra weight helps keep your rear tires on the ground and helps with the overall balance of the jeep. Plus your lift kit is engineered for the weight so your rear springs will actually come up a 1/4 of an inch or more for cheaper lift kits. Most 4-6" lifts are engineered for 80-120lbs of rear force over stock. This balance is just for leveling purposes.
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battery box failure?
I'm pretty sure he was running without a spare.

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