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Genright and Metalcloak

Can someone explain the disgust or indifference to these two companies?

Whenever I see either of these vendors come up, they are blown off or get a large amount of shit talk.
I get that Poison Spyder and Rockrawler are JKO forum favorites. That's fine.

All sites have there "favorites". "cough,Eddie Oh, cough"

I am just curious why these vendors, that I assume pay as much as Jeremy from RK, get so much less respect here. If they all pay the same, what's the problem? Are there tiers?

Serious question. I don't get it.

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I've seen Poison Spyder bad-mouthed more than Metal Cloak and I've seen Rock Krawler scrutinized just as much as GenRight.

IMO... They are all great companies and are all VERY involved with JK aftermarket innovation. No company is immune to criticism on here, but all of these guys are at the top of their game and show a good deal of integrity.

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The way I look at it is everyone has the preferred vendors they want to deal with. I know that a couple of people have Genright parts on their Jeeps and love the products. Likewise a co worker of mine had Metalcloak fenders and really loved them. Really it comes down to personal choices and experiences which are often shared on the forums.

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I have not seen much bashing on metal cloak.

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there was some stink on the forum and internet a little while ago that genright stirred up towards poison spyder. I think that put a bad taste in a few peoples mouth towards them.

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there is just more "Pushers" for Poison Spyder and RK. Thats all..



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Genright promises Swag and doesnt deliver.
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Its all back door deals with the sites administrators.

Every different JK website has their "preferred stuff" and its real obvious to me....just got to take it all with a grain of salt

Bottom line is if a website/forum isn't actively selling a product....then you are the product :mindblown:

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I don't think MetalCloak has done anything wrong, but the way they came in, introducing new suspension tech with their "Gamechanger" suspension was sure to ruffle some feathers. Their parts get good feedback from even the most critical, like cjcraig7, so I think they are good.

GenRight recently removed RCO from its list of approved distributors for reasons I don't remember, so that's one reason.

Poison Spyder has had a lot of QC issues so they should be getting beaten up too.

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I don't think MetalCloak has done anything wrong, but the way they came in, introducing new suspension tech with their "Gamechanger" suspension was sure to ruffle some feathers. Their parts get good feedback from even the most critical, like cjcraig7, so I think they are good.

GenRight recently removed RCO from its list of approved distributors for reasons I don't remember, so that's one reason.

Poison Spyder has had a lot of QC issues so they should be getting beaten up too.
They felt that Marcus was pushing other companies stuff over theirs...

Now I'm taking my ball and going home.

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I have no clue about Genright, but Metal Cloak is the shit. I've been around JK's for 5 years and have a pretty good understanding based on reading thread after thread of feedback. I was dead set on going Rock Krawler because they are a solid company, stand behind their product, and have a good rep. When I got my '14, I was deciding on which RK lift and then started noticing Metal Cloak lifts and investigated.

After careful consideration, I went with Metal Cloak. The quality of the lift components is first rate and the guys at MC are great to work with. I'm not discounting Rock Krawler at all and probably would have been just as happy with their lift. But I liked MC's Duroflex joints and the dual rate springs.

The reality of driving my MC'd JK lives up to the hype. Great ride, retains height after armor, and performs off-road.

As a matter of fact, I haven't read one thread of someone slamming MC. If people are doing that, they certainly don't own one of their lifts.


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Interesting.

Marcus can sell GenRight products. He and I speak on a semi-regulalr basis and I know he speaks to the folks back on our sales desk. That earlier stink was before my time but Marcus, myself and GenRight are all good now.

The swag thing is one person (really one forum) who held onto a joke too long.

If anyone has a question, comment or concern about GenRight or our products they are more than welcome to message me. You'll also see us at most events so look for the yellow GenRight Jeeps and/or look for our President, Tony Pellegrino. He'll be wearing a yellow GenRight hat and I'm sure he'd love to hear any feedback you'd like to share with him.

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Interesting.

Marcus can sell GenRight products. He and I speak on a semi-regulalr basis and I know he speaks to the folks back on our sales desk. That earlier stink was before my time but Marcus, myself and GenRight are all good now.

The swag thing is one person (really one forum) who held onto a joke too long.

If anyone has a question, comment or concern about GenRight or our products they are more than welcome to message me. You'll also see us at most events so look for the yellow GenRight Jeeps and/or look for our President, Tony Pellegrino. He'll be wearing a yellow GenRight hat and I'm sure he'd love to hear any feedback you'd like to share with him.
Are you guys going to be at Jeep Beach?


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Are you guys going to be at Jeep Beach?
Yes. We will be at as many events as we can get to this year.

Easter Jeep Safari
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and a ton of other events.

here's our events page: http://www.genright.com/Runs-Events.aspx

I scanned that list and see a few events may be missing. We're going to be all over the US this year!

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The swag thing is one person (really one forum) who held onto a joke too long.
It wasn't a joke to the guy the swag was promised to. Maybe somebody should have the courtesy to tell him there will be none.

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It wasn't a joke to the guy the swag was promised to. Maybe somebody should have the courtesy to tell him there will be none.
Yep, SWAG is no joking matter

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And the joke lives on. Come see me at an event and I'll get you a sticker. Same thing I told him.

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Can someone explain the disgust or indifference to these two companies?

Whenever I see either of these vendors come up, they are blown off or get a large amount of shit talk.
I get that Poison Spyder and Rockrawler are JKO forum favorites. That's fine.

All sites have there "favorites". "cough,Eddie Oh, cough"

I am just curious why these vendors, that I assume pay as much as Jeremy from RK, get so much less respect here. If they all pay the same, what's the problem? Are there tiers?

Serious question. I don't get it.

As we see it everyone has an opinion and they're not always the same. Sure there is a lot of people that tend to like one specific brand better then another and they try to get others to like their favorite brands too. But that is what keeps everyones wheels turning! We like to think of it as the drive that keeps us motivated to design new innovative products and improve upon ourselves in anyway that we can.

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Interesting.

Marcus can sell GenRight products. He and I speak on a semi-regulalr basis and I know he speaks to the folks back on our sales desk. That earlier stink was before my time but Marcus, myself and GenRight are all good now.

The swag thing is one person (really one forum) who held onto a joke too long.

If anyone has a question, comment or concern about GenRight or our products they are more than welcome to message me. You'll also see us at most events so look for the yellow GenRight Jeeps and/or look for our President, Tony Pellegrino. He'll be wearing a yellow GenRight hat and I'm sure he'd love to hear any feedback you'd like to share with him.
Well apparently I didn't think it was a joke, I actually have some of your products on my Jeep, so I had no problem putting stickers on my jeep supporting you.

But apparently that is not going to happen.

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1. JK-Forum and the dis service they did to the JK community by not even allowing you to mention a company that did not pay to advertise on the site, this is why you see so many people running teraflex and rock krawler. I am not saying anthing bad about those companies but when people get on a forum and ask about lifts and you are given only 3 or 4 choices, that is what people are going to choose.

2. Rock Krawler, teraflex, OME, Rough Country were fast to the market with their products. Companies like Genright, Clayton, and Metal Cloak were a bit late and the other companies had lots of fanboys out there touting their lifts.

3. Ignorance, people just don't understand suspensions and steering design and how making changes affect the performance. People see the word "flex" in a component and think they are getting more articulation.

4. Cost, hooking people in with a low priced incomplete kit, and telling them that the kit is "upgradeable" and they can build it up over time. While this is true for the campanies that do it, in fact all suspension kits are upgradeable. This falls back to the ignorance of the consumer.

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Can someone explain the disgust or indifference to these two companies?

Whenever I see either of these vendors come up, they are blown off or get a large amount of shit talk.
I get that Poison Spyder and Rockrawler are JKO forum favorites. That's fine.

All sites have there "favorites". "cough,Eddie Oh, cough"

I am just curious why these vendors, that I assume pay as much as Jeremy from RK, get so much less respect here. If they all pay the same, what's the problem? Are there tiers?

Serious question. I don't get it.

The amount of money you pay to be a vendor has no bearing on the respect you get. Here its only about the reputation you have and the product you make.

Eddie's site was different as your money bought you respect and censorship in case anyone spoke badly about you. That is not what happens here.

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Its all back door deals with the sites administrators.

Every different JK website has their "preferred stuff" and its real obvious to me....just got to take it all with a grain of salt

Bottom line is if a website/forum isn't actively selling a product....then you are the product :mindblown:
What the hell are you talking about??? There is no censorship here by moderators. You are free to boast or rag on any product you want. Just be prepared to defend your stance.

Also I think you have your business model a little confused. Membership count is always the main product for a forum as the majority of revenue comes from ads and to attract vendors to want to pay for that advertising takes high traffic numbers.


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