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I was dropping my brother off and I saw it

I am not a car guy. I am looking for advice as to whether or not this is a good deal. By that I mean I am not getting raked over the coals I wouldn't expect this to be a steal.

I have long enjoyed the look of the wrangler and am in a financial position to buy what I want (within reason of course)

Here is the dealer listing http://www.champaignchryslerdodgejee...49265b2187.htm

They've also listed it on CL here so I know I can ask them to lower at least two thousand lol http://chambana.craigslist.org/ctd/4350011964.html

Aparently it was a local guy that traded it in and I can get specifics of what he modified. Again I am not a car guy the sales associate went into a little detail but it was at the end of my day.

I REALLY appreciate any input.
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Not bad if you can look past the horrible stick on hood vents, chrome grille inserts, and bumpers. Basically bring a couple of feet of fishing line (to remove the hood vents) and a socket set to remove those items and leave them behind after the dealer discounts you a 1000.00 dollars for those items...

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Not bad if you can look past the horrible stick on hood vents, chrome grille inserts, and bumpers. Basically bring a couple of feet of fishing line (to remove the hood vents) and a socket set to remove those items and leave them behind after the dealer discounts you a 1000.00 dollars for those items...
Thanks JKCTAZ

Aesthetics aside (I now feel like douche for these items drawing my attention are they really THAT bad haha) just testing the price waters.

I suppose I'll have to puruse the classifieds here for viable replacements.

I just wanted to know how fairly they priced the vehicle and see what bargaining chips I may have. Thanks again sir
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It looks to have some work done on it drivetrain wise, it would be a good start to a very capable trail rig. The chrome isn't super popular with this group, but hey, if you like it who cares what I or anyone else thinks. Price is a little high considering you can get this by me for 2K more without haggling...

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Thanks for the comparison I'll see how much i can talk them down.

I had planned to paint it black and was wondering how hard it would be to powder coat the existing parts.

I guy I used to work with swore by wranglers they look really fun I have a feeling I'll end up striking a deal with these guys. My magnum has 91000 miles and I want to do something before it hits 100 000
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Thanks for the comparison I'll see how much i can talk them down.

I had planned to paint it black and was wondering how hard it would be to powder coat the existing parts.

I guy I used to work with swore by wranglers they look really fun I have a feeling I'll end up striking a deal with these guys. My magnum has 91000 miles and I want to do something before it hits 100 000
We swear by Wranglers here, too! I usually just swear... The bumpers could be coated, but if you like them, why bother? Wheel the crap out of it and let the haters see their own reflections in that rear tube bumper.

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We swear by Wranglers here, too! I usually just swear... The bumpers could be coated, but if you like them, why bother? Wheel the crap out of it and let the haters see their own reflections in that rear tube bumper.
I am a fan of the 'murdered' out look. Would like the black on black.

I want to see if I can get in contact with the previous owner and get the specifics of what he did.

Aparently some work to the engine/exhaust was done... I'll post back here once I have the information.

I like the idea of these retaining such great residual value.

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Again I really appreciate your time.
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I like the idea of these retaining such great residual value.
Buying used, you pay for that value. Buying new, you own that value.

JKCTAZ linked a hell of a deal. Place a special order on a 2014, it will be just as good of a deal and you get what YOU want.
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You would be way better off buying new Imo. It's a bottom of the line 09, not even a center console lol. You already said your not a "car guy" so you don't know what your getting into with the lift or if it wa done right. Cl ad said it is rc, not the best lift to begin with.

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You would be way better off buying new Imo. It's a bottom of the line 09, not even a center console lol. You already said your not a "car guy" so you don't know what your getting into with the lift or if it wa done right. Cl ad said it is rc, not the best lift to begin with.
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For an 09 at that price you better be getting a better lift and probably a rubicon.

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Fuck that shit. If you want the murdered out look, don't jump the gun and buy this overpriced yuppie pig. 1st you don't know what was done or if it was done correctly, 2 that fucker must have the fountain of youth in it for that price, 3, you don't like that look so find one closer to your liking, and finally it's has a baby spare tire on it. Move on and Thank us later when you find the one you really want.

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http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/ctd/4363061369.html

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What an awesome forum.

I really appreciate all the feedback. I went by the dealership today and they were all ready to write me up at the 24K (of course).

While I am not a car guy I don't make emotional decisions and I typically do my own due diligence before I make any decision.

I am going to do my reading on here to see if I can form a better understanding of what I'm looking for.

Ultimately I think one of these would be so much fun to own but this is a want for me and not a need so I'll try to find a better deal or at least get more bang for my buck.

Truly I appreciate all of the feedback from you guys here: it has been well received.
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It's a bottom of the line 09, not even a center console lol.
I thought they all had them except for a few early 07s. Definitely a BASE model.

And I've got $100 on this thing having death wobble!

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How about starting with the basics. Take it for a test drive. It has about 4" more lift than it needs to clear those tires, so with that much lift it may not drive all that well. See if it wanders all over the road from not having enough castor. See if it has driveline vibrations, and that means you're going to have to get it on the interstate and drive it at 75 to 80 mph for a few minutes. See if it has death wobble. Hit a few potholes or man hole covers to see if you can cause a death wobble. Has the prior owner regeared the axles, or is he trying to turn those tires with 3.21 gears and that gutless wonder of a 3.8 engine under the hood.

Then, after you've determined it is mechanically sound, and not a total pig to drive, then start to talk price.

And finally, if you want a black Jeep, buy a black Jeep. Don't buy a white Jeep with the intent of painting it black. Changing the color on a vehicle is expensive.

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A key factor to me is that you can buy new or nearly new for close to the price and know what you have, as has been said. But the real clincher is getting into a 2012 or newer buys you the 3.6 engine at 285 HP. The new Sport that was linked to at 27K+ will take you plenty of places, even some you may not want to go.

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Yuck, pass. That price is too high considering you're going to have to change all the aesthetics. I'd ditch all the chrome, especially the bumpers, and I'd ditch the wheels. At that point you might as well just buy a stock 2013 from the dealer and start fresh. $26k for an older, uglier Jeep like this is NUTS. That price can get you a lot more elsewhere.

My opinion obviously, but that just looks wrong. White Jeeps are some of the best looking Jeeps out there and this is still ugly.
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I think I need to go up there when I get ready to sell my 09. If they are asking that much with all the cheap catalog crap on it I can only imagine what mine would bring with its top shelf parts.

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If it has stock gearing you can plan on a couple of thousand dollars right there to turn those tires
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Too much money....I like the idea of getting a newer one (2013?) and doing what you really want to it...
like this: http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...65051330&Log=0
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Don't walk away from this deal..... RUN like the wind

too much $$$

too much tube bumpers

too much lift

Don't think I've ever seen a JK without a center console, Doesn't even have the good radio or subwoofer.

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