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Anyone running without bumpers at all?

I've seen a number of no bumper threads. Not sure it is the right choce for a rear bumper becaus I've smashed down on the rear bumper a number of times.

Anyone have a long term report on no bumpers?

Seems like I can get away with just a winch plate and dring mounts on the front. I'm worried about trashing the cross member. When I had a steel bumper on the front, I never smacked it on the trail.

The rear is another story. What worries me about going bumperless in the rear is coming down off an obstacle with just one tire. Seems like you could potentially trash the rear quarters without protection.

Thanks again for any long term feedback on running sans bumpers.
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I have been running just D rings for about a year now. No issues to date. I am still on the 32's with my Rubicon so you can look at it two ways, 1 I'm not doing the MOST extreme trails in mostly stock form so that negates some potential damage or you can take it like I'm at stock lift height on stock tires doing trails that others are typically on 35's and up and not sustaining damage (well except a minor ding on the passenger side door)

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I'm running 37 MTRs with an AEV 4.5" lift. Have been out on the rocks with 35 MTars on a 3.5" AEV and never hit the front once.
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I'm not running a rear bumper. No issues either. However I'm looking to buy one as soon as the cheese comes available
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no rear bumper for over a year and many trips with no issues at all.....I have a very basic winch plate bumper in the front as well.....cut the crash bar off and have had no issues up front either.....running 3" Poly lift and 37" MTR's


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I run a front bumper/ stinger but I haven't had a rear bumper for a couple years.

I'm not going to outright call myself "stupid", nor am I going to suggest that anyone else is stupid for not running one either, BUT...

I know damn well that I am taking a huge risk on the trails and even more-so on the street.

I was rear-ended a while back and that should've been my wake-up call. There was a ton of damage to the other vehicle and luckily NO damage to mine. My receiver hitch and d-ring took the majority of the impact. But that rear cross-member is SO exposed back there and with no protection to that cross-member and to those frame-rails, you are just BEGGING for a tweaked frame in a very hard off-road hit or in a hard hitting rear-end collision.

Complacency is about the only reason that I am still without. I know damn well that it is NOT a good idea to leave my ass-end so exposed and vulnerable, but here I am STILL with nothing on the back.

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Yeah, I figure it's risky too but the stock bumper does not really offer you much more protection.

I had a gen right stuby on there but it came into contact with the body, causing damage to the body and hard top. I'll post a separate thread later with pics.


On the front, I just have a winch plate with the evo offroad front drings.
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I personally agree^^^^. I do believe it offers more protection. Just can't bring myself to drop a large amount for a rear bumper and tire carrier
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Looks like evo just recently came out with a "facia" to cover the frame as well. I am going to get that. Just spotted it this evening.

https://www.offroadevolution.com/sto...rod=EVO_Fascia
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]Have run "no bumpers" since 2011, Never had any problem. Actually it's helped me get up some flat faced ledges. The tires stick just a hair forward of the bumper plate. Just have to be careful when coming off of rocks or ledges. Just think before coming off of stuff.




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re: Anyone running without bumpers at all?

I hated my dumbo plastics ; Expedition One Basic DX up front ( wings as well for fog lights).
Just got rid of the plastic obscenity on the rear last weekend...







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took off my bumper and cut the crossmember out and added a winch plate. don't have the pic of the final product but then made a plate for the fairlead to hold in front of it.
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Personally I don't see there being any risk at all as far as damage is concerned to being hit from behind. The stock bumper is nothing. If you are hit with enough force to cause frame damage the stock bumper was not going to help you.
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The protection from the rear OEM bumper is absolutely minimal at best, but it would still be better in SOME TYPES OF COLLISIONS than nothing at all. It's flimsy and thin but the plastic material combined with the boxed structure CAN in some instances be just enough to save the rear cross-member and/ or frame-rails due to deflection and/ or absorption. In most instances it won't make a difference, but in some types of impacts it can.

Now in terms of "no bumpers or aftermarket bumpers"... there are obviously quite a few JK owners that have saved their frame and cross-members by having steel-fabricated bumpers at the time they were involved in a collision.

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Thanks for the feedback and pics everyone!

That rear winch looks nice too. Have you used it yet? What was the situation?
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Yeah, I figure it's risky too but the stock bumper does not really offer you much more protection.

I had a gen right stuby on there but it came into contact with the body, causing damage to the body and hard top. I'll post a separate thread later with pics.


On the front, I just have a winch plate with the evo offroad front drings.
Dont take this the wrong way...

But some guys should not run without bumpers...I wheel with a couple of them...they just hit shit on their bumpers...they cant avoid it...its like rocks are attracted to their bumpers.

After seeing your thread on your tub/body damage....thats my take.
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Dont take this the wrong way...

But some guys should not run without bumpers...I wheel with a couple of them...they just hit shit on their bumpers...they cant avoid it...its like rocks are attracted to their bumpers.

After seeing your thread on your tub/body damage....thats my take.
Thanks for your insightful feedback. Maybe you are not pushing yours hard enough?

I can definitely corroborate the fact that make contact with the rear bumper many more times than the front bumper.

That is not to say that I am a bad driver as you are apparently implying. Maybe I am being a bad customer and I should just shut up and accept a flawed design.

These are jeeps and they do get slammed on rocks as everyone is in agreement on.

Aftermarket products designed and marketed to protect your vehicle should actually be able to do that. I was able to uncover a bug in the Genright design.
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Thanks for your insightful feedback. Maybe you are not pushing yours hard enough?

I can definitely corroborate the fact that make contact with the rear bumper many more times than the front bumper.

That is not to say that I am a bad driver as you are apparently implying. Maybe I am being a bad customer and I should just shut up and accept a flawed design.

These are jeeps and they do get slammed on rocks as everyone is in agreement on.

Aftermarket products designed and marketed to protect your vehicle should actually be able to do that. I was able to uncover a bug in the Genright design.
Ya your right..your a hero.
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Ya your right..your a hero.
Since I cannot keep my rear bumper in pristine condition while out on the trail and apparently have issues even finding a bumper that is compatible with slamming on rocks, I would never qualify as a hero.
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Since I cannot keep my rear bumper in pristine condition while out on the trail and apparently have issues even finding a bumper that is compatible with slamming on rocks, I would never qualify as a hero.
Unless you do fire roads or mal crawling its hard to keep a rig pristine. I will tell you some guys are hard on thier rigs than others.

Some guys dont care or arent very good at finding a good line and bang the shit out of bumpers LCA mounts, shock mounts etc....

Other guys just wheel hard on hard trails and breaking something is expected. I want to do this trail but my lockers wont be put in til this week with new gears...but as you can see his rear bumper is as close as yours and I am sure saw some rocks...

What i am saying is you hit anything hard enough it will break....

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