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Damn, I'm a cheap bastard....bought a $100 engine/trans skid

There are places to spend money on a build and places to save money...and true to my perceptions about cheap bumpers and skids I bought this:

E-Autogrilles skid plate....

Yep, the old e-autogrilles, apparently now in the skid plate business. It's pretty much un-possible to beat $100 for an engine/trans skid with good coverage. Even if it sucks, I'll pound that bitch back out and weld some channel onto the back side to make it rigid. If it's made of soda cans, for $100 I'll shitcan it and call it a lesson learned. We'll see....

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Can't beat that price even if you have to burn some more metal to it. Hell I bent my rock hard skid that looks just like that one first time out with it.

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this is funny in the ebay description....

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I wouldn't be skeptical at all it says "Best Quality in the market"

Good find though I may pick one up myself I throw more than a 100 dollars away in trash each day.
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IMO, good move. Even if it's just a starter skin. I picked up a PJ engine tranny skid bent like a taco for basically some work in trade, and am welding tringulating gussets behind it where it's flat, and subsequently bend prone currently. Cheap and effective.

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I wouldn't be skeptical at all it says "Best Quality in the market"
Hey, they can't put it on the internet if it isn't true.

I'm trying to figure out the weird extension over to the frame rail on the driver's side. It almost looks like a half-baked attempt at an exhaust loop shield.

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Subscribed. Keep us up on how it goes. Apparently you are not the only JK owner who is a little on the frugal side. Now if I could find a $100 rear bumper and tire carrier!

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Subscribed. Keep us up on how it goes. Apparently you are not the only JK owner who is a little on the frugal side. Now if I could find a $100 rear bumper and tire carrier!
There's a cheap $300 one on ebay that looks interesting-little out of your price range though....lol

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I wouldn't be skeptical at all it says "Best Quality in the market"

Good find though I may pick one up myself I throw more than a 100 dollars away in trash each day.
And where might I find this cash laden trash?

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Subscribed. Keep us up on how it goes. Apparently you are not the only JK owner who is a little on the frugal side. Now if I could find a $100 rear bumper and tire carrier!
That's one area where I have to eat my own words. Cheap bumpers without carriers, good. Cheap tire carrier/bumper combos suck like a two-bit hooker. I tried a couple, some even not really cheap...I might as well have flushed money down the toilet. Integrated non-latching tailgate carriers are the great savior from rattles, loosening, adjustment nightmares, and all kinds other chit. My first JK rear was a Rugged Ridge bumper/carrier combo....it was so bad that RR almost had it dropped through their roof from ten thousand feet.

But if you run a separate carrier that can handle your spare, cheap is back to being good.

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That's one area where I have to eat my own words. Cheap bumpers without carriers, good. Cheap tire carrier/bumper combos suck like a two-bit hooker. I tried a couple, some even not really cheap...I might as well have flushed money down the toilet. Integrated non-latching tailgate carriers are the great savior from rattles, loosening, adjustment nightmares, and all kinds other chit. My first JK rear was a Rugged Ridge bumper/carrier combo....it was so bad that RR almost had it dropped through their roof from ten thousand feet.

But if you run a separate carrier that can handle your spare, cheap is back to being good.
My Smitty with swing out carrier works great, no rattles, doesn't open while I drive and the JK hasn't exploded from it, yeat.

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That's one area where I have to eat my own words. Cheap bumpers without carriers, good. Cheap tire carrier/bumper combos suck like a two-bit hooker. I tried a couple, some even not really cheap...I might as well have flushed money down the toilet. Integrated non-latching tailgate carriers are the great savior from rattles, loosening, adjustment nightmares, and all kinds other chit. My first JK rear was a Rugged Ridge bumper/carrier combo....it was so bad that RR almost had it dropped through their roof from ten thousand feet.

But if you run a separate carrier that can handle your spare, cheap is back to being good.
I completely agree about the carrier. I've kinda been waiting for my stock rear bumper to get ripped off but after backing my spare into a tree during a night ride a while back and slightly bending my tailgate, I think I should probably do something about it before I start getting bigger problems. I really like the LOD and VKS combos and am thinking of going that route once I have some spare coin. (Which still might be a while)

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My Smitty with swing out carrier works great, no rattles, doesn't open while I drive and the JK hasn't exploded from it, yeat.
My RR was a particularly craptacular design. I know when the Smitties came out they were initially having some issues with the latching mechanism, but they seem to be solid these days. I see them all over, so they must be working out well.

My other bumper carrier was actually a Hardrock, which was far from crappy....but after a few years of CO wheeling, I couldn't keep it from rattling no matter how I adjusted it. Like the say in the Bronx, ya just nevah, nevah know...

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My RR was a particularly craptacular design. I know when the Smitties came out they were initially having some issues with the latching mechanism, but they seem to be solid these days. I see them all over, so they must be working out well.

My other bumper carrier was actually a Hardrock, which was far from crappy....but after a few years of CO wheeling, I couldn't keep it from rattling no matter how I adjusted it. Like the say in the Bronx, ya just nevah, nevah know...
Picking my spare up to put it on the carrier makes my sphincter bearing rattle.

I would imagine wheeling hard will make almost anything rattle.

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Awesome find...

Might need some speed holes, such a great friggin find!

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Might need some speed holes, such a great friggin find!
What does drilling holes in the rear bumper of your Civic have to do with this thread?

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And where might I find this cash laden trash?
Socal! If I had not bought or sold 1/2 the stuff I have thrown away over the years I would be retired!

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Says "skid row" in the description.
But not the same as http://www.skidplates.com/Engine_07_JK.asp

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That's a knock off of the Rockhard engine skid. That extra little "wing" protects the y-pipe/crossover on the 3.8 jeeps. Not sure if it will clear the loop on the 3.6 jeeps.

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That's a knock off of the Rockhard engine skid. That extra little "wing" protects the y-pipe/crossover on the 3.8 jeeps. Not sure if it will clear the loop on the 3.6 jeeps.
I wonder if Rockhard knows they are being ripped off?

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I have to say that I do feel for the individuals and companies who put in the R&D time and money only to get ripped off by the Chinese. On the other hand, it is a skid plate....a few press brake bends and holes drilled isn't exactly a high level engineering effort worth inducing passionate intellectual property feelings. The only above-and-beyond skid systems I am aware of are the Poly setup, and the EVO ones are a pretty cool design also. The rest are....well, cut plates. The Rockhard system does use cone washers for bolt protection which is pretty cool.

The upshot of this is that I'm willing to bet that there is virtually no crossover of customer base from cheap Chinese rip-offs to quality American made stuff. Those looking at top-shelf parts aren't looking at Chinese stuff, and vice-versa, so there's room in the sea for both fish.

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Some say rip off some say capitalism. Either way good companies rise to the top and bad companies sink to the bottom (usually). Sometimes the "good" company was simply overcharging and another company makes the same thing for a more appropriate price. Its the way of the world.
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Subscribed. I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on this too for the heck of it. Keep us all posted on your purchase.


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I saw this last week and almost went for it. Interested in seeing how this turns out.

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