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post #1 of 62 Old 08-11-2009, 03:07 PM Thread Starter
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Call me a heretic but...

...I have absolutely no intention of ever lifting my jeep or putting anything larger than the stock 32's on it. I have put rock rails on it and will eventually put a new front bumper or possibly a custom grill guard on it, but no lift.

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To each his/her own brother. I am sure it will be perfect. That is the beauty of a Jeep, you can make it... you.

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Its all your choice,
but why may i ask?
Why bother with the bumper and sliders if youre not going to lift it?

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To each their own I say ... doesn't really matter - build what you need and call it a day.

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That will change.
I said 2" BB was enough.
Wrong!
I am going with a 3.5" RK Mid arm with 35's in the next couple months.
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I'm never gonna lift it turns into all I need are 40's, coil overs, and 60's!

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If you plan on a different front bumper, get a winch with it. smittybilt 8.5 for $300 bucks. that way if you ever do get hung up on something then you can pull youself off it. I wouldnt lift it either but I would cut off all 4 fenders and put some 40" tires on it

I have a jeep and it goes over shit.
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my Rubicon is going to stay stock as well but ive already added front and rear bumpers, winch, off road lights and going to buy some belly skid plates at the end of the month. I also plan to modifing the stock rubi sliders to be stronger and have tube side steps.

my last truck had 7" of lift with 1 ton suspension running on 40's. it also had detroit lockers front and rear with hydro assist steering and beadlocks. all i had to do was point and shoot to get over things. it was cool while it lasted but now i think ill have more fun leaving the jeep stock. everything is going to be an adventure again, i can also travel all around and explore without consuming gas like crazy. i cant wait!
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You sound like me. You are making payments on a vehicle and don't want to mess with it especially if it isn't "yours" just yet. I plan on 32's, no lift and replacing the bumpers.

If you take a look at the old CJ's of the day, bumpers, a little bigger tires (31's) and maybe some rails were all you needed to enjoy the outdoors and offroad.

I'm with you, heretic you are not. I've owned four jeeps, all of them modified, some more than others. Enjoy your rig....just please for the love of god don't put dubs on it and bling it out...that makes any self-respecting Jeep owner

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Good for you. I have a 3" lift with 35's (enough for me) on my Rubicon. After wheeling it like this I kind of wish I would have left it stock for awhile just to really see how capable it is. Plus it might make me a better wheeler
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.........As long as you enjoy it who cares what you do or don't do to it.
I agree. If you like it and it is the way you want it, that's all that matters.
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If you take a look at the old CJ's of the day, bumpers, a little bigger tires (31's) and maybe some rails were all you needed to enjoy the outdoors and offroad.
You just described my 1980 CJ7 Renegade.
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Its all your choice,
but why may i ask?
Why bother with the bumper and sliders if youre not going to lift it?
What does the bumper and sliders have to do with a lift?

I like the look of the sliders because I don't like the unfinished look of the rocker panels. I was looking at the OEM Rubicon sliders, but settled on KC-Hilites. I wanted something rugged looking that covered the unfinished look. As far as the bumper goes, I want a grill guard because once again, I like the look. I had one one my CJ and it looked great.
I haven't seen one yet that can go on a stock bumper. I may have found someone that can fabricate what I want.
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I wouldn't call you a heretic. I think the JKs are by far the best looking "stock" Jeep ever. Would I like to get a basic lift and bigger shoes...... hell yeah!! But I'm not in any hurry to do so.










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My friend is doing something similar with his TJ. No lift. 31's and just the 4.0 bored out to 4.6 and related upgrades. He figures he won't need it if he has lockers, etc. His Jeep will be capable enough and if it isn't a winch can get him through.

I don't plan on heavily modding the JK until I at least get another one that I can make my DD and somewhat mod.

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...I have absolutely no intention of ever lifting my jeep or putting anything larger than the stock 32's on it. I have put rock rails on it and will eventually put a new front bumber or possibly a custom grill guard on it, but no lift.
No heresy here...it's your Jeep, you know what you want. I've got a 2.5" BB and 33's, I see no reason to ever go beyond that. This Rubi will climb any and everything I would want to point it at. I probably can't do all the serious rock trails a lot of seriously modded rigs can, but wouldn't want to anyway. I am happy with my BB, modded rock rails, good bumpers front and rear. I still wish I had worn out my stock BFG MTs before dropping $$$ on a new set of tires, but I'm happy with what I have. I did put a skid plate on my evap cannister, just in case...

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What does the bumper and sliders have to do with a lift?

I like the look of the sliders because I don't like the unfinished look of the rocker panels. I was looking at the OEM Rubicon sliders, but settled on KC-Hilites. I wanted something rugged looking that covered the unfinished look. As far as the bumper goes, I want a grill guard because once again, I like the look. I had one one my CJ and it looked great.
I haven't seen one yet that can go on a stock bumper. I may have found someone that can fabricate what I want.
i assumed with those mods you planned on wheeling it.
Bad assumption.

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Yep still stock here, street tires and all. I got lots of dreams about mods but you know I haven't got stuck once yet so I guess it dosen't really need anything.

skid plates and rocker guards are still way cheaper than repairs,well worth the investment.

got Jeep got stuff, never enough of the right stuff tho

Am I in deep enough yet?
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Thank God that we live in a country where we have the choice to lift or not to lift our jeeps. I am quite positive that the founding fathers of this great nation, had there been jeeps back then, would have agreed that no man should have to modify his jeep or any other vehicle for that matter to include a lift kit or larger tires. This is truly a great democracy. I do however feel that had they ever seen a stone cold hottie in a tank top, cut off blue jean shorts, a straw cowboy hat and cowboy boots driving a lifted jeep with 37s on it, they may have made it a law that for an attractive woman to be allowed to own a jeep, said jeep must have a minimum of 4" lift and run 35s. That law may have been repealed after the Dukes of Hazzard ran for the first time but I feel that it may have been only a short reprieve. I do believe in my chauvanistic heart that all women owners of jeeps should, by law, be required to have their jeeps lifted with large tires and to never be allowed to drive with the doors on. I also believe that all hot women who drive a jeep in this fashion should be entitled to additional tax cedits and have special parking spots just like handicapped people. All you men out there, do whatever you want to your jeeps,just dont make them look gay, other than that nobody really cares. Just my 2 cents

I have a jeep and it goes over shit.

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i assumed with those mods you planned on wheeling it.
Bad assumption.
You realize what happens when you assume, correct? You don't need a lift to wheel.

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won't call you a heretic, but I will call you a borderline troll
what else was the purpose of this post?

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nothing at all against staying stock - JKs are quite capable in stock form, but why did you feel the need for the declaratory statement of NOT doing anything?

I could make a post "I don't intend to paint my Jeep pink" or "I don't intend to supercharge my motor" or "I don't intend to do a Hemi swap" etc etc.


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Thank God that we live in a country where we have the choice to lift or not to lift our jeeps. I am quite positive that the founding fathers of this great nation, had there been jeeps back then, would have agreed that no man should have to modify his jeep or any other vehicle for that matter to include a lift kit or larger tires. This is truly a great democracy. I do however feel that had they ever seen a stone cold hottie in a tank top, cut off blue jean shorts, a straw cowboy hat and cowboy boots driving a lifted jeep with 37s on it, they may have made it a law that for an attractive woman to be allowed to own a jeep, said jeep must have a minimum of 4" lift and run 35s. That law may have been repealed after the Dukes of Hazzard ran for the first time but I feel that it may have been only a short reprieve. I do believe in my chauvanistic heart that all women owners of jeeps should, by law, be required to have their jeeps lifted with large tires and to never be allowed to drive with the doors on. I also believe that all hot women who drive a jeep in this fashion should be entitled to additional tax cedits and have special parking spots just like handicapped people. All you men out there, do whatever you want to your jeeps,just dont make them look gay, other than that nobody really cares. Just my 2 cents
One of my buddies just married a girl that would almost fit your requirements. Keeping in mind that he drives a Honda Civic Si hatchback (2004, maybe?). She's a 3rd grade teacher, blonde, petite, etc...driving a Ford F-250, 6-inch lift, huge tires, replaced bumpers, guards, light bars...the works, basically. His car could just about fit in the bed of her truck

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Anyone who does not lift their jeep is a terrible human being.

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I'm not going to lift mine or do major modifications either. This is actually why I bought a Rubicon model. If I wanted to build the thing I would have bought a cheaper one and started with more of a blank slate. The Jeep is also my daily driver, so I'm only ever going to obtain light weekend warrior wheeling status with it anyway.

I do plan to change out the front bumper and add a winch. Maybe the rear bumper too. I'll wait until we get moved to Denver next year to bother with that though. I don't think the Jeep will leave pavement until next summer when we get to the mountains unfortunately. This area of Texas is flat and boring as hell, and mudding doesn't do anything for me.

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This area of Texas is flat and boring as hell, and mudding doesn't do anything for me.
Dallas is actually close to a LOT of good wheeling areas
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