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wheel lock - lost key, no code - now what?

I lost my wheel lock key on the trail (forgot to put the drain plug back in jack compartment, key came out of vinyl sleeve that the lug wrench is in). I picked up a nail on the way home. I am holding air, but I can't change my tire. I don't have the original code to order a new key. Stealership is telling me that I'll have to bust the locks off.

Has anyone done this? What is involved in that, and what is the potential damage?

This sux

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First off.... its gonna suck... get past that..

Call around to some tire shops and see what they will do... also some dealerships. I talked to someone who said our local Ford dealership had about 30 "master" keys in their shop.

The crooks hammer a smaller socket over the lock - you lose the socket but get the lock off.... thinking that a 12 point socket that is close might work too... slamming a socket and then using an impact will probably be the fastest way.

You can tack a nut to the end of it if no lug is showing....

Vice grips used to work if you can even get a set on there..

This...
http://www.toolsusa.com/asp/item_det...ode=GoogleBase
http://www.difflock.com/buyersguide/..._remover.shtml


Ask N2Rock.... I think RedneckHouston got a set off his rig..


I sure hope it isnt a Gorilla lock.... that is really going to be a pain.

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I have to agree with Mr Ron... This isn't gonna end without some suckiness. I too hope its not a gorilla. The first thing I did was order an extra "key" and keep one in the glove box (tuffy locking style) and the other in my tool box.

As for welding a nut to the locking lug...that's probably your best option, anything else you run the risk of damaging the lug or the stud.

Good luck and let us know how you make out
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jb weld a socket on after hammering it on worked for me in the past.

take a sheet of paper and lay over it and shade it with a pencil to get the pattern with you. try the major tire places they may have something as well. but with the rubbed impression you can take a vehicle with tires with no leaks.

and x2 on the gonna suck category. glovebox is a safer place due to the drain plug always being removed for me.
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i think the manufacturer is mcguard

i was thinking welding was going to be the only option. The lock nuts are quite rounded on the outside, so i don't see vise grips working. hammering a socket, that may be worth a trip to harbor freight for some cheap sockets.

I don't have a welder, so this will be a chance to meet someone new

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I would try and call the local tire shops and your dealership first.... you are not the first one to lose a key.... they probably get one or two a week.
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Picked this up at Sears, will give it a go when I get home

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...rd=lug+remover

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I have always just went ahead and broke it off and then replaced the stud. Done and done
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I lost mine a while ago. I have locking lug nut extractors and they work well, but they were too big to fit in the lug hole. I used one of those extractors for bolts with messed up heads. I have a set and found the one that was the best fit, hammered it on so it bit hard and used a breaker bar. They came off a lot easier than I thought they would.
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Picked this up at Sears, will give it a go when I get home

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...rd=lug+remover
They should work, as long as they are not too big for the lug holes.

This is what I used to remove mine:

http://www.irwin.com/irwin/consumer/...rwinProd100513

You can pick them up at Sears, etc.

The 3/4" one fit on to my Gorilla locking lugs, a few taps to make sure it seated well, and a quick turn with a breaker bar, and they came off.
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i had this happen to me before on my truck.

here is a trick.

Use a craftsman socket (i'll tell you why in a minute) that is hair smaller than the outer diamater of the lug nut.

Hammer that socket into the lug nut

and wam bam your done, now continue onto the next wheel.

Now, more than likely you have busted up your good craftsmand socket, but craftsman has lifetime warranty. Go to sears and get another one.
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i had this happen to me before on my truck.

here is a trick.

Use a craftsman socket (i'll tell you why in a minute) that is hair smaller than the outer diamater of the lug nut.

Hammer that socket into the lug nut

and wam bam your done, now continue onto the next wheel.

Now, more than likely you have busted up your good craftsmand socket, but craftsman has lifetime warranty. Go to sears and get another one.
now thats a great idea
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i had this happen to me before on my truck.

here is a trick.

Use a craftsman socket (i'll tell you why in a minute) that is hair smaller than the outer diamater of the lug nut.

Hammer that socket into the lug nut

and wam bam your done, now continue onto the next wheel.

Now, more than likely you have busted up your good craftsmand socket, but craftsman has lifetime warranty. Go to sears and get another one.
That is what I do. Works every time.

DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH SHAFFERS OFFROAD. YOU WILL BE SORRY YOU DID..
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SCREWED

so that rounded edge to the lock nut, well it spins freely whenever you get something on it. The extractor, another socket, a plumbers drain wrench. anything.

hopefully discount tire can help in the morning.

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send me a picture of the patten. meybey i have the same one on my jk. it is the factry locking nut right?

I have a jeep and it goes over shit.
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Resolution - luckily McGard was able to use a digi pic to match my key and send me a new one. Unfortunately, I had to chisel out all the damage I had done trying the EZOuts, etc. to make that key work

But I am out of my jam - woohoo

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Resolution - luckily McGard was able to use a digi pic to match my key and send me a new one. Unfortunately, I had to chisel out all the damage I had done trying the EZOuts, etc. to make that key work

But I am out of my jam - woohoo
Too cool, good job posting this - might help someone in a jam later on.


I am going to order another key... gotta quit procrastinating...

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