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Hi-Lift vs "Farm Jack"

What's the difference? Is there more than a name for the extra $30?

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Whoa... never heard of one, but Tractor Supply has the 48" one for $39.99

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They are the same type of jack. "Hi-Lift" is a trade name, like Kleenex and tissue paper. There are good and cheep knock-offs. My first ladder Jack was from "Kargen Auto Parts" I do not know the name of the maker. It never had the pin sticking problems that my HI-Lift's have had. I do carry and use the Hi-Lift today. The old one was sold with one of the old Jeeps.

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Whoa... never heard of one, but Tractor Supply has the 48" one for $39.99

I am gonna have to hang out in this thread, see what happens.
Yeah, that's what I was referring to. Northern Tool has one in that range, too.

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No difference I think. Mine is called a "jack-all"
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The Hi-Lift's predecessor was invented in 1905 and sold as the Automatic Combination Tool. The original jack was commonly known as the Handyman or Sheepherder's Jack, and years later it was renamed the Hi-Lift Jack.
Though many improvements have been made, the jack's basic design has remained the same since its invention. With a rated capacity of 4660 lbs. and a tested capacity of 7000 lbs., the jack may be used to lift, winch, clamp, pull and push. Comes in sizes of 36" to 60". range from cheap to 100 or so dollars.

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Just make sure it is rated the same and you should be good with any. I'm sure there are differences but for a peice of mind make sure it is rated equally.
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Mine is a 48" Farm Jack the biggest difference I can tell is the way the foot attatches to main beam. HighLift has removable pin Farm Jack has bolt,HighLift has a piece at top for clamping Farm Jack dose not.But you can still put Quick link in top hole and hook D ring to it for use as makeshift winch/or puller.

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Now that I have the lift and am getting tires this week, I have been thinking about getting a hi-lift... sounds Like a trip to the Northern Tool is in order.

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I have both a TSC farm jack and a Hi-Lift brand jack. They both operate the same. They were both purchased at TSC.

The farm jack is used mostly underwater to jack up the boat hoist to put the wheels on it to put it in the lake or take it out. I've had a lot of problems with the pins sticking even though I use WD40 before and after each underwater use. There is a lot of suspended sediment in the water when I use it so I can't fault the jack, but it is annoying.

I bent the ladder post on a previous farm jack. I had a 18" long 2x8 bolted to the jack base so it wouldn't sink or tip in the mud. The post bent just above the jack base. Don't use your jack as a pry bar. They (at least the cheap ones) bend easily. Now I have spare parts for the other farm jack. The bending post is what convinced me to buy a real Hi-Lift this time.

I just got the Hi-Lift this year for the Jeep. I keep it inside stashed under the back seat so it stays clean. No sticking problems yet. I bought the the Hi-Lift hoping for higher quality. Ususlly, within the same store, you get what you pay for. I have no regrets for either jack.

My feeling is that if you keep the jack clean and lubricated either will do the job.

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both are widowmakers
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I smashed my thumb with one about two months ago and it still hurts. I can barely put enough pressure on it to open the Jeep door now. I hate them, but on the trail I canít think of a decent alternative.
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I smashed my thumb with one about two months ago and it still hurts. I can barely put enough pressure on it to open the Jeep door now. I hate them, but on the trail I canít think of a decent alternative.
If I had the money and knew someone that could help develop it, I have the alternative. Much safer, better and able to lift the axle or the body safely.
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If I had the money and knew someone that could help develop it, I have the alternative. Much safer, better and able to lift the axle or the body safely.
Maybe something like this?:



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The Hydra-Jac from Radflo is the fastest, lightest and most convenient "high-lift" type jack for off-road vehicle applications.

If you've ever tried to change a tire off-road using an ordinary jack, you know how frustrating and even dangerous the exercise can be. The emergency jack supplied with your vehicle is useless if you have a suspension lift. And that old-fashioned cast iron jack that you've been lugging around is great for agricultural purposes, but it's not exactly ideal for today's high tech off-road machines. The awkward size makes it difficult to store in your vehicle, the immense weight is cumbersome to transport, and the constant rattling is downright annoying.

The hydraulic specialists at Radflo Suspension Technology have heard your frustrations and developed a proper off-road jack that allows you to change tires with more speed and less sweat than ever before. The Hydra-Jac is a technically advanced, lightweight racing jack designed specifically for the off-road enthusiast. This clever adaptation of the "high-lift" jack provides the long-travel range you need without the cumbersome size and weight of conventional designs.


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doesn't lift the axle though.

my idea is still safer than that
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doesn't lift the axle though.

my idea is still safer than that
Quit teasing us!

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hell no. On the wild off-chance I get to develop it with someone... I sure as hell don't want to be giving away the recipe right now

did I mention I have somewhat of a prototype?
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hell no. On the wild off-chance I get to develop it with someone... I sure as hell don't want to be giving away the recipe right now

did I mention I have somewhat of a prototype?
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hell no. On the wild off-chance I get to develop it with someone... I sure as hell don't want to be giving away the recipe right now

did I mention I have somewhat of a prototype?
Send me the plans or a drawing and I will quote having it built for you in China or Taiwan. I have confidentiality agreements in place, and some of our vendors have been working with my company for over 20 years. I can also have it made at HIGH quality plants (ISO certified and such), so it wouldnt "cheap Chinese crap!"

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Send me the plans or a drawing and I will quote having it built for you in China or Taiwan. I have confidentiality agreements in place, and some of our vendors have been working with my company for over 20 years. I can also have it made at HIGH quality plants (ISO certified and such), so it wouldnt "cheap Chinese crap!"
Are there no American Companies left the have the ability to produce anything anymore? Not a dig on you necessarily, but this type of mentality has lead to our American manufactures demise; and I don't like it bit...

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Hi Lift jacks have been made in Indiana in one form or another since the 1905 "Automatic Combination Tool". That alone is reason enough to spend a few extra bucks. Besides, think of it as an investment... ten years from now sadly American made hand tools will probably be extinct.

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I've seen air-bag type jacks that use either exhaust or compressed air to inflate and lift the vehicle, what does everyone think about these??

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While doing training in the Algodones Dunes (Glamis) we tried and used the exhaust powered system. We had problems with the exhaust being so hot it melted the hose liner 3 different times. We were working the vehicles hard so the exhaust was very warm. Under other situations it may work better, I will not buy one. Just my experience.

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While doing training in the Algodones Dunes (Glamis) we tried and used the exhaust powered system. We had problems with the exhaust being so hot it melted the hose liner 3 different times. We were working the vehicles hard so the exhaust was very warm. Under other situations it may work better, I will not buy one. Just my experience.
Other than melting, what did you think? They'll also fill with a compressor.

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I know someone who has the arb one and we did use it once, worked well. never thought about the exhaust being to hot though, that would suck if it melted it, they arent cheap
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