*Almost*All winches are the same in the fact that the motor is longer than the gear side. Weather it is a Warn 6000-9500lb, Ramsey 6000-9500lb winch they are all between 7.55-7.95 from mounting hole to end of motor (even the 9.0RC). The mounting to edge of first interference is about 8.5" , that is if you are far enough back to miss the front frame horns (those give even less room).*IF* you want a winch sunk low and inside the frame rails and not have to cut your grill out around it, it is going to be off centered, unless you want to hack things out of the way. Butted up against the frame a 9500lb winch will still be over 3/8" off center, that is touching Frame and close to the grill. We tried to accommodate as many winches as possible, and gave room for installation by going about an inch over that.
Last edited by ToyFamily; 09-07-2007 at 02:50 PM.