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well I've finally decided to join the AR Club while I can. I have a buddy with an FFL license who is going to build me one. he's ordering me a Smith & Wesson M&P 15 with an additional .300 barrel and a gas block. he's going to convert the 5.56/.223 to a .300 Blackout for me. the best part is it will only be costing me $700. that is for everything. Smith & Wesson wants well over $1k for a .300 already built from them.

i'm not going to be using this as home defense or taking to the range just to burn rounds up. it will go into my hunting arsenal and be used primarily for deer and pig hunting. probably going to throw a Leupold VXIII on it for optics. i'm wanting something I can see and shoot out to about 200 yards in all kinds environments so variable power is a must.

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I have nothing but good things to say about the fit and finish of my M&P15 lower.

I had a 3-9x42 on there for a while and liked it, I'm back to iron sights at the moment just for fun.

Welcome to the club, it's addicting.
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I have 5 now.
All but two I built myself from 80% lowers.
I've often said ARs are the Wranglers of the gun world.
No end to the options and available parts, and most changes can be done at home.
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I have 5 now.
All but two I built myself from 80% lowers.
I've often said ARs are the Wranglers of the gun world.
No end to the options and available parts, and most changes can be done at home.
I say that same thing! Its so true. I've built 3 from scratch using Lauru and Bravo Company parts.

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i hope this doesn't turn into another addiction! the wife would probably leave me if I found another hobby. she already gripes about my Jeep, archery and hunting addictions. she really got pissed when I built an archery work bench in our living room. she did however give me our spare bedroom as my "man cave" after that. she got tired of seeing my archery stuff all over our living room and not to mention shooting my bow in the living room...lol

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Sounds like it's going to be a nice little build. Having a buddy who can hook you up is priceless.

What length barrel are you going with? 16+ or an SBR?
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Sounds like it's going to be a nice little build. Having a buddy who can hook you up is priceless.

What length barrel are you going with? 16+ or an SBR?
since it's going to be for hunting, i'm going to stay with a 16+. I want to keep the velocity up. if I ever decide to get my license and buy a suppressor I will just buy a short barrel for going subsonic. my buddy said he can get barrels fairly cheap also.

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Good deal. With a hypersonic round and a 16+ inch barrel, you will see great performance out to about 250-300 meters. My SBR is only good for about 50-100 meters with subsonics, but damn is it fun to shot. LOL

But yes, barrels a pretty cheap. A really high quality barrel will only be upwards of $300. Inexpensive, but still good is around $150.

Looking forward to seeing some pictures once its done.

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Although not M&P, I've done something similar with my .300. Only thing that bothers me is the weight if I have to lug it anywhere, but once I'm shooting, the weight makes it comfortable. Only thing I have changed is put a SJC Titan compensator on it. I love shooting it.
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There is always room in the cool kids club, but if you are talking about the Henry AR-7... not exactly the same thing. Any pics?
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My cherry just got popped, Well AR wise that is


Assembled my Spikes lower this evening, My first, And it wasn't bad at all. All went together smoothly (well almost, more later) and no major nicks or scratches... Not bad for doing it on living room table with no vise for block.

As for the "well almost" part.... The pivot detent is a world class mudder fawker, Luckily there was a spare as the first one I messed with is now somewhere behind my TV I'll be getting the tool as my next challenge will be to do an 80% lower, probably a .300.

Bought a kit from Midway to throw on it, Not high dollar but should be OK, Has some Daniel Defense pieces in it. Should be in Monday, Then I get to play with buffer detent

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Assembled my Spikes lower this evening, My first, And it wasn't bad at all. All went together smoothly (well almost, more later) and no major nicks or scratches... Not bad for doing it on living room table with no vise for block.



As for the "well almost" part.... The pivot detent is a world class mudder fawker, Luckily there was a spare as the first one I messed with is now somewhere behind my TV I'll be getting the tool as my next challenge will be to do an 80% lower, probably a .300.



Bought a kit from Midway to throw on it, Not high dollar but should be OK, Has some Daniel Defense pieces in it. Should be in Monday, Then I get to play with buffer detent

The 80% will require a milling machine?

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Drill press will do, Just have to get proper tooling for it. I looked into it and there's many kits with proper drill and mill bits, Also many videos that show how.

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I've seen guys do it with a hand drill and the proper jigs. Seems like a pita, but it's doable.

On a side note, i bought a couple of Anderson stripped lowers from a LGS recently and a 9mm carbine rifle kit from PSA. I looked up a couple of videos on building lowers and was surprised at how little goes into it. My brother and a couple of friends wanted see how it goes together, so it's going to turn into a teaching moment for us all.

The 9mm, kit from PSA doesn't have the ramped carrier, so the kit uses a specific hammer for the carrier. I don't know how well it will work with a rifle upper, but with the mag block in the lower, it will likely stay a 9mm dedicated lower for the foreseeable future.

Not sure what i'm going to do with the other lower yet, i'm thinking about SBRing it, but i'd also like a longer barreled rifle 20"-22" in an alternate caliber.

Should be shooting my first built AR lower in a week or so.

I think this thing is finally coming together. Still Needed: drive shafts, frame mount rails...then done son! For a while...
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Building the lower was quite easy, With the exception of the aforementioned pivot detent. There's a tool that makes it go easier.

My kit made it today and I threw it together in less than a half hour, Granted the upper had the BCG, charging handle, barrel and hand grip already installed. All I had to assemble was the rear pin and detent(easy), buffer tube and buffer detent(also easy) and throw the rear buis on.

Before I start throwing lead I'm going to go back over everything to make sure I assembled it correctly.

Going to wait till I get proficient with the open sights before I go spending $$$ on optics (In other words I'm not sure what optics I'm going to get)

Afraid I've got BGD now (Black Gun Disease)

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finally finished my AR build this week. as I mentioned earlier, I started out with a Smith & Wesson M&P Sport. I was planning on keeping it simple but that plan got derailed rather quickly. I ended up ordering a Palmetto State Armory upper, Monstrum Tactical 10" free floating hand guard, pistol gas tube, low profile gas block, Ghost Rifle .300 aac barrel and a Yankee Hill Phantom flash suppressor.

I ended up deciding to keep the M&P upper complete to prevent the extra hassle of removing parts to switch calibers. right now all I have to do is switch my bolt, carrier and charging handle between uppers when I want to switch between calibers. I will end up buying an extra bolt, carrier and charging handle sooner or later so I won't even have to switch those out.

anyway, I also switched out the factory 7# trigger in the S&W lower with a RRA 2 stage varmint 3.5# trigger. for my sighting system I elected to go with Nikon AR rings and a Nikon ProStaff 3-9x40mm scope with their BDC reticle. using Nikon's Spot On software with my choice of ammo, Hornady 110 grain V-Max bullets, and zeroing in at 200 yards leaves my BDC aiming points at 250, 300, 350 and 400 yards...give or take a couple yards.

using the 200 yard zero method, I only get a 3.25" positive difference at max and that is at 100 yards. for my hunting purpose, as long as I put my cross hair on the heart from 0 to 200 yards...i'll have a dead deer/pig. the only thing I am missing now is a sling. does anyone have any suggestions for me on this. being that I am using a free floating hand guard, what kind of sling mount should I run on the front that does not attach to my hand guard?

oh and here is a pic of my rifle before and after my Krylon paint job...




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Very nice setup! And I love the paint!
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Nice paint Camo.

Regarding the roll pins in the lower I opted to use a set of channellock pliers instead of a punch and hammer, I did file the leading edge of the pin first for a bit more bevel. Seemed to be easier on the lower as it's not being shocked. So which method does our esteemed builders prefer?

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I disagree about multiple AR ownership. There's nothing wrong with owning just one. Just make sure it's not a POS.

CamoCop, nice build. It has purpose.
Unlike so many dressed-up tarts found at gun shows, the range, non-shooter's delusional fantasy land, etc., I'd be proud to have a copy of your rifle...and you're right, all it needs is a sling.

Couple questions...
- Just curious, what's it weigh as pictured?
- Can you rephrase your question about a forward sling mount not attached to the hand guard? I'm not gettin' your idea. Kinda the whole point of a free-floater...isolate the barrel from external influences like slings, bipods and heavy hands.
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I use a Viking Tactics sling attached to my free float quad rail. Works great, quickly adjustable, very comfortable.



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I disagree about multiple AR ownership. There's nothing wrong with owning just one. Just make sure it's not a POS.

CamoCop, nice build. It has purpose.
Unlike so many dressed-up tarts found at gun shows, the range, non-shooter's delusional fantasy land, etc., I'd be proud to have a copy of your rifle...and you're right, all it needs is a sling.

Couple questions...
- Just curious, what's it weigh as pictured?
- Can you rephrase your question about a forward sling mount not attached to the hand guard? I'm not gettin' your idea. Kinda the whole point of a free-floater...isolate the barrel from external influences like slings, bipods and heavy hands.
not sure on the weight but it ended up a lot lighter than I imagined. i'll have to put it on my scale to get an exact weight. I will try to remember to do that tomorrow.

I see what your saying about the point of a free float barrel. I was just concerned about the sling putting too much pressure on the free floating hand guard and slowly bending it over time. I guess I could use a rail sling mount and just keep the mount closer to the upper where the hand guard screws to the upper. it has a lot more support in this area instead of near the end where there is no support.

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