You cry about wanting instructions that read like putting together a set of legos. Nobody is twisting your arm to spend your $$$ here. You obviously want the best conversion kit out there so this is why you are here. News flash, you're gonna have to use your noggin a bit with this one. If I were Motech I wouldn't even sell you a kit because I already know the time I am going to have to invest on the phone with you would not be worth the measly amount I made from you.
I hate quoting huge messages so I shortened it a bit. I didnít take you for a fool or an idiot, you seem like a smart guy from what little I have read from you. I like to consider myself the same (at least my mom tells me so) One thing that guys who are thinkers and tinkerers like to do is figure stuff out! I almost revel in the chance to tackle stuff like this knowing the mental and physical challenge that is ahead. I can fully understand if this is your daily driver and you need it to be down as little as possible but letís be honest, if you can afford this swap you can purchase a beater to get around in for a few more weeks.
Jesus Christ, yall both wanted bernie as prez right? The stench of entitlement is so thick between the two of you. Nobody owes you squat including instructions. You donít like or want it because there arenít any, donít buy it. In your case alasha this frees up your friends rack, how convenient!
Hey DKjeep, I just wanted to say thanks for helping me see the light!! Instructions?? We donít need no stinkin instructions!!! What the hell was I thinking. Did you happen to watch that video on the Gen III harness that Motech posted?? Actually, I hope you didnít because after watching it, well hell, all of your tinkering and figuriní it out time would be gone! I really hope this doesnít spoil it for you, so if you didnít watch it, donít read the rest of this post!
The part about the revised fuel emissions evap control system was a real DUH! moment for me. So in the box of parts that showed up from Motech is going to be a plastic tee, a piece of vapor line and a GM (I assume a GM) fuel pressure sensor. Now you being the great thinker and tinker you are might say to yourself, ďbut the Pentastar already has a fuel pressure sensorĒ. I am sure that would only give you a momentary pause. Of course you install the new pressure sensor with the factory one left in place. Who wonít just KNOW that!!!
But wait, if your order in the next 60 seconds, we will also include a brand new evap vent solenoid at no extra charge! (The JK does not use a vent solenoid.) And since there are only 2 lines connected to the evap canister you have a 50 / 50 chance of getting it connected to the right line. And assuming you tinker away until that becomes clear as a bell, donít forget it has to be mounted in a certain spatial direction! But silly me, everybody knows that a GM (another assumption) vent solenoid gets mounted in a specific orientation! Once that is all done, you have successfully converted the Chrysler open loop evap system to the GM closed loop feedback evap system. But, shucks, you already knew that!
But wait, thereís more. I know how all of us tinkerers love to just roll up our sleeves and use our noggins!! Well Motech gives us even more opportunity to excel! The new Gen III harness its ďvirtually plug and playĒ. Virtually because there are 2 individual wires that have to be pinned into your stock JK ECU C3 connector. But hell, that is nothing for an olí tinkerer like you! There canít be more that 20 or 30 vacant pin positions in the C3 connector, so just trial and error shouldnít take more than a few weeks! (I am just guessing as to the number of vacant pin positions in C3 in a Pentastar. Itís been a while since I did a 6.4 hemi swap and those swaps require a similar (if not the same) 2 wire into the C3 connector as well. ) Oh shit, though, we donít know exactly what those 2 wires do! Oh well, we can just plug them into the first two vacant positions, drive that jeep around and see if everything works. If something doesnít work, then move the wires to the next 2 pin positions, rinse and repeat. Just remember to keep track of which wire goes in what order so when you have to start all over, you can REVERSE the order this time. Your second time through all the vacant pin positions in the C3 connector is guaranteed to hit the right combo!!!
Again, thanks DKjeep for helping me see the light. What was I thinking! Sometimes I just become an entitled whiny little bitch! But thanks to good people like you, I have snapped out of it.
Were dropping the body on a 2015 JKUR so Mitch and I thought we would take a short video on how simple this is. I'm not saying instructions or a decent up to date needs list are required, Necuphile has a point about that. My point is this install has got pretty easy.
Robbie, great video. It really helped clarify what is involved in the swap from a wiring and emissions system perspective. And your modification of the evap system to mimic the GM system is EXACTLY the kind of stuff that the CO State Emissions Lab would be looking for during an engine swap certification.