WTF Jeep won't start - JKowners.com : Jeep Wrangler JK Forum
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 12 Old 04-08-2009, 12:11 PM Thread Starter
JKO Addict!
 
usmcdoc14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Norfawk, va
Posts: 3,881
Feedback: 1 reviews
WTF Jeep won't start

Installed a dual batery system today in the rear with a hellroaring isolator combiner. Ran all the wires, 2ga from the rear to the front and to the ground, and then I disconnected the battery and put a distribution block under the hood. Then I connected all wires to the distribution block and then connected the POS in the rear.

NOw it will not start No, the batteries are not dead. No, it will not jump start. No, there are no obvious fuses blown.

It goes "click" like the battery is dead and then nothing else. Oh and the windshield wipers will go once.

There is nothing I did odd or shorted anything. This is way too soon for a starter seliniod to die as well.

just to keep me sane: there is 3 red wires to the POS on the stock JK right? 2 that are joined at one terminal and one other. and there is 2 NEG wires joined at one terminal. someone want to verify this for me.

help
usmcdoc14 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 12 Old 04-08-2009, 12:26 PM
Administrator
 
HITMONEY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sothern Utah
Age: 49
Posts: 8,743
Garage
Feedback: 5 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by usmcdoc14 View Post
Installed a dual batery system today in the rear with a hellroaring isolator combiner. Ran all the wires, 2ga from the rear to the front and to the ground, and then I disconnected the battery and put a distribution block under the hood. Then I connected all wires to the distribution block and then connected the POS in the rear.

NOw it will not start No, the batteries are not dead. No, it will not jump start. No, there are no obvious fuses blown.

It goes "click" like the battery is dead and then nothing else. Oh and the windshield wipers will go once.

There is nothing I did odd or shorted anything. This is way too soon for a starter seliniod to die as well.

just to keep me sane: there is 3 red wires to the POS on the stock JK right? 2 that are joined at one terminal and one other. and there is 2 NEG wires joined at one terminal. someone want to verify this for me.

help
Yes, 3 wires to positive 2 to negative. One of the positive wires is a fusible link.

Sound like a ground issue to me.

°lllll°


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Facebook Page
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

YouTube Channel
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
HITMONEY is offline  
post #3 of 12 Old 04-08-2009, 12:35 PM
Granite Guru
 
Preacher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Miami, FL
Age: 53
Posts: 401
Feedback: 0 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by HITMONEY View Post
Yes, 3 wires to positive 2 to negative. One of the positive wires is a fusible link.

Sound like a ground issue to me.
That was my first thought as well. Sound like you have a ground wire not connected.

--------------------
Preacher
REDRUM
2009 Wrangler 'X'
Preacher is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 12 Old 04-08-2009, 01:05 PM Thread Starter
JKO Addict!
 
usmcdoc14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Norfawk, va
Posts: 3,881
Feedback: 1 reviews

tracing and adding grounds now. you can never have too many grounds
usmcdoc14 is offline  
post #5 of 12 Old 04-08-2009, 01:30 PM Thread Starter
JKO Addict!
 
usmcdoc14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Norfawk, va
Posts: 3,881
Feedback: 1 reviews

added ANOTHER 2ga ground and taaadaaaaa..

I feel like a retard
usmcdoc14 is offline  
post #6 of 12 Old 04-08-2009, 01:43 PM
Openly Hostile
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
Age: 41
Posts: 6,984
Feedback: 4 reviews

HOw about some pics of the setup.

Jason
SDMF is offline  
post #7 of 12 Old 04-08-2009, 02:20 PM
Granite Guru
 
Preacher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Miami, FL
Age: 53
Posts: 401
Feedback: 0 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by usmcdoc14 View Post
added ANOTHER 2ga ground and taaadaaaaa..

I feel like a retard
Stuff happens, I am just glad you got it fixed.

BTW: That golden spork is awesome....

One of my most hated sargeants' favorite sayings was,

"I will gouge out your f***ing eyes with a spork if ....."

Followed by a colorful description of whatever infraction we had committed that time around.

--------------------
Preacher
REDRUM
2009 Wrangler 'X'
Preacher is offline  
post #8 of 12 Old 04-08-2009, 06:27 PM Thread Starter
JKO Addict!
 
usmcdoc14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Norfawk, va
Posts: 3,881
Feedback: 1 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by SDMF View Post
HOw about some pics of the setup.
In time

Quote:
Originally Posted by Preacher View Post
Stuff happens, I am just glad you got it fixed.

BTW: That golden spork is awesome....

One of my most hated sargeants' favorite sayings was,

"I will gouge out your f***ing eyes with a spork if ....."

Followed by a colorful description of whatever infraction we had committed that time around.
The spork is thine most holy of all eating utensils
usmcdoc14 is offline  
post #9 of 12 Old 04-10-2009, 03:37 AM
dsy
Granite Guru
 
dsy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Toledo
Age: 63
Posts: 343
Feedback: 1 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by usmcdoc14 View Post
Installed a dual batery system today in the rear with a hellroaring isolator combiner. Ran all the wires, 2ga from the rear to the front and to the ground, and then I disconnected the battery and put a distribution block under the hood. Then I connected all wires to the distribution block and then connected the POS in the rear.
Glad you got it figured out. Where did you end up mounting your rear batt?
I just made a mount to move my hellroaring isolator to the firewall which worked out pretty well. I took out the small rear seat and installed my second batt under my Engel fridge in that location but I would like to get the batt out from under that so I can lower how high the fridge sits.

07 Flame Red Unlimited Rubicon, 5.7 hemi, RCV shafts, 35" KM2's, AEV 3 1/2 lift, , AEV rear swing away Carrier, AEV Snorkel, LoD front bumper with Warn powerplant, 45qt Engel refrigerator / freezer. , Marchal E-Code lamps
DIY Hemi build
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
dsy is offline  
post #10 of 12 Old 04-14-2009, 07:08 AM
Granite Guru
 
Benchmark Designs Inc.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: WA
Posts: 399
Feedback: -1 reviews

Doc fabbed up beefy ammo can tub that he sunk into the floor of the rear of the tub.

If you're looking for a bolt-in solution that doesn't take up any additional space, check out my dual battery tray:

www.benchmark-designs.com

In stock an shipping.

Badass Bumpers, Dual Battery Systems, Rockcrawler Oil Pans and More!
www.benchmarkdesigns.com
Benchmark Designs Inc. is offline  
post #11 of 12 Old 04-14-2009, 08:14 AM
Rock God
 
mcnaught6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: HellPaso, TX - Fort Bliss
Age: 41
Posts: 1,304
Feedback: 0 reviews

you don't have all your ground wires running all the way to the engine bay, do you?

if the wires are too long, they have too much resistance and won't function properly - which sounds like your problem, since it was fixed by adding another ground wire. ground wires should be kept as short as possible. a ground is a ground. they don't all have to run all the way to the negative terminal of the battery.
mcnaught6 is offline  
post #12 of 12 Old 04-14-2009, 08:59 AM Thread Starter
JKO Addict!
 
usmcdoc14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Norfawk, va
Posts: 3,881
Feedback: 1 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by dsy View Post
Glad you got it figured out. Where did you end up mounting your rear batt?
see my other thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Benchmark Designs Inc. View Post
Doc fabbed up beefy ammo can tub that he sunk into the floor of the rear of the tub.

If you're looking for a bolt-in solution that doesn't take up any additional space, check out my dual battery tray:

www.benchmark-designs.com

In stock an shipping.
His stuff kicks ass if you don't want to cut/fab.

I plan on using the underhood space for OBA, but you could do it the other way around and run his kit in front and OBA in the rear.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mcnaught6 View Post
you don't have all your ground wires running all the way to the engine bay, do you?
heck no thats a LOT of wire.
usmcdoc14 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the JKowners.com : Jeep Wrangler JK Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome