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anyone else have this electrical problem

I just trailered my 08 rubicon to jeep dealer and was wondering if this sounds familiar to any of you. a few weeks ago I was waiting on a friend with the engine running and the jeep died, locked the doors, the horn came on constant, and the windshield washer sprayed constant, the only way I could get it to stop was to unhook the battery. well it died a few times for the next week then as I was coming home from work (after dark) the headlights went off and the horn came on again but the engine didnt die. the dash was dead well I took the key out so I wouldnt get locked out if it did lock and I unhooked the batt and the horn still didnt go off because the engine was still running with the key in my hand. I put the key in and turned it on and off a few times and it wouldnt die so I held the brake and choked the engine down ( not a hard task in the sickly 3.8). The engine wouldnt start back and the lights and locks wouldnt work either, I think that was because of the security system so i trailered it in this morning.Does anyone have any experience with any of this.
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Id be pissed if that happened to me. Something similar to that happened to a guy at katemcy once. I dont know if the horn was blowing and water spraying, but it was some kind of problem like that.

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being a mopar I wasnt expecting 24,000 miles without a problem so I wasnt too mad. I might be after I find out how much it will cost to fix. Im betting I get it back and drive it a few times only to have the same thing happen again since that is the nature of an electrical problem that isnt consistant. and the delaership sucks too so im not optimistic anyway. oh well that fj is looking better all the time.
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...and people think im crazy for hating computer controlled vehicles...

Im sorry man that sucks. But theres no WAY they wont cover that under warranty. I mean what are they going to say... "You lifted your jeep so high the air is actually thinner up there and not able to cool the electronics properly ... therefore it it your fault your jeep went all 'exorcist' on your ass" ? I highly doubt it.

Then again ... Ive been surprised before...

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Winch and kc lights. also I think Its been a little over 3 years since I bought it and the lifetime warranty doesnt cover electronics. Its been a shitty week, trust me they will find a way to charge me. I went to put air in new tires on our 08 avenger because one was flat and the valve stem broke off and the place that installed the tires say they didnt do it so they want 75 dollars for a new one, ( I told them id just stare at the damn light) and my grandma burned herself badly (smoking while on oxygen even though we told her dumbass several times not too) then the next day the jeep dies for good so yeah they will find a way. And no my glass isnt half empty, some S.O.B done stole my glass and gave it to some bastard on welfare so dont start on my negative attitude. In the words of Tommy Lee Jones "this is my happy face".
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[QUOTE=KMCobra64;639327]...and people think im crazy for hating computer controlled vehicles...

I agree completely, no way that would happen on my 78 or 66 fords. Honestly how is one supposed to road hunt when their horn goes off for no reason. and now I carry vice grips in my pocket when I get out just in case.dont guess ill be losing it in any parking lots though Ill just listen for the horn and look for people covered in slug-a-bug. seriously though im not parking close to the house just in case, I dont want to add the house burning down to my list of crap for the new year.
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I'm shure it is the clockspring, my horn go off after a rain, checked everything and was the clockspring, and every thing in the steering wheel controls pass by the CS, lights, windshield wipers and horn, I opened the CS because I found two pins shorted but I found nothing, and in USA it is 180 or 190 dollars, here dealers don't even have it yet but shure it is going to be 500.

Now all that key thing that is strange

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well they reflashed computer and the second time I drove it I got to walk home in the cold because it went all apeshit again. took it back and they fixed it . The tipm (totaly integrated power module) was bad. 500.00 and I was ready to go again. Not covered by lifetime warranty but as long as its fixed five hundred isnt all that bad.
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Glad to see it was taken care of. Shame that it was covered....but at least you took it in stride.


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I had an electrical problem on mine after having it for 4 months. All of the dummy lights on the dash would light up and stay lit and the ESP would come on for no reason. It took my dealer 2 months to fix it. They replaced the TIPM twice and the ABS module and some various fuses only to find out it was the main engine wiring harness. I have the lifetime warranty, and they didn't charge me a dime AND provided me with an enterprise rental car (Grand Cherokee) for the entire two months that they had it. I think you need to be reimbursed...

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Seen similar things 3 times with JKs:

1) When it happened to a member of my local club, it was because his battery was going bad.

2) When it happened to Abendx, he pulled his Superchips program and reinstalled and everything worked.

3) When it happened on mine, the TIPM was bad and had to be replaced (dealer would not warranty it).

I have also heard of similar problems that resulted from something with the e-disco.
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Well I called the main dodge place and they said that it was not covered by the lifetime warranty. Oh well. 500 dollars for 4 years is cheap compared to what it took to keep my gmcs on the road.
From what I have read from google searching wrangler tipm problems most of the ones that have been complaining with the same thing have been rubicons. Could be that the people who buy rubicons are more likely to be on forums though. Where is the tipm module and what does it look like. I would like to see if I can tell if it has really been changed. Just curious.
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So, thread hijack possibly...

I have had random electrical thingies (not as severe as that) and so far have not had to have the TIPM replaced. But weird stuff, like the windshield wipers that wouldn't shut off (fortunately at home where I could disconnect the battery for a few minutes). I hate computer controlled vehicles! The only "electronics" on my 1972 Commando is the freaking AM radio. And if that dies I'd never notice, I never turn it on. I've had the ESP light on me a couple of times and stay on for the required three starts (I think).

Possibly the only smart think I have done is isolate all my add ons through relays which may have minimized those computer overloads.

I would say the extended warranty I paid big bucks for has more than paid off on this vehicle. My Durango I never used it. This one has paid well over $10000 to the dealer to fix random mechanical failures.

Well, a buddy warned me never to buy the first model year and I had to have a four door. I should have listened to him.

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If you just have the lifetime power train warranty, I guess it's not covered. I have the lifetime bumper to bumper warranty....and it has more than paid for itself.

If we all pitch in, we can buy Jeep from Chrysler and we can actually produce a true Jeep from the factory that works!

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Electrical problems suck, Creston. I'm just glad they got it fixed for you on the second try. $500 sucks, but just to make you feel better about your week.(misery loves company)

I had a ford exploDer that lived up to it's name until I went back to jeeps. Electrical problems since the day off the lot until I sold it 4 years later. 4 dealers and "electrical specialist mechanics"(what a load of bull) could never figure it out. Best they could do was to get it so that the only problem was the entire dash would randomly go almost entirely dark / could barely read it at night for a few seconds at a time. After replacing the fuse box, blown radio, trailer harness hookups, random electrical bits on the engine that were fried, etc..etc... etc.. No common system to all the problems other than the wiring harness, alternator, and battery. Willing to bet someone put a screw through the harness and it was an intermittent short. Why? Because in the end, I think they'd even replaced the alternator and it still had issues.

My pa had a gmc kodiak that had issues for 7 years before someone finally realized the entire wiring harness had been installed backwards. It'd been in the shop frequently until then. At that point they had to put in a new harness for the entire thing...which helped a lot.

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Well I called the main dodge place and they said that it was not covered by the lifetime warranty. Oh well. 500 dollars for 4 years is cheap compared to what it took to keep my gmcs on the road.
From what I have read from google searching wrangler tipm problems most of the ones that have been complaining with the same thing have been rubicons. Could be that the people who buy rubicons are more likely to be on forums though. Where is the tipm module and what does it look like. I would like to see if I can tell if it has really been changed. Just curious.
I believe the TIPM is just a fancy name for the fuse box. Passenger side, in front of the battery.
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