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post #1 of 37 Old 11-15-2010, 05:34 PM Thread Starter
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Question about Ham radio.

How many here are running them and which one. Also do have a CB also or no? I am thinking about getting one but not real certain. any advise.
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post #2 of 37 Old 11-15-2010, 06:44 PM
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I have one, handheld in the jeep (Yaesu VX-7R), and I have a CB.
I know another HAM in Jax setup the same, but she is not on here (that I know of).
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I have both. A yeasu 8800r for long range communication/emergency stuff and a cobra 75 for general use.

CBs are so limited in range that you only can really talk within your group in the woods. Sometimes you can't even reach from the front to back. HAM has no problem.

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both.

yeasu ft8900 and a midland. one on each side of the center console.

best i've gotten out of my CB is 1 or 2 miles. the ham, i've hit repeaters 20-30 miles away. simplex, i've gotten 10 miles or so on that radio. had a FT100 that i regularly got 20 miles simplex out of it.

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from 2nd floor balcony of a hotel in tampa, FL to crestview, FL.. "line of sight" for 10 minutes on a 5w Alinco DJ195 ht. that was on a weather induced band opening. thats some good skip over the water.


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Not that anyone should listen to oz97tj on the trail. Not if you want to come home with all your paint or fender flairs.

That said, I figured if he got one I should too. At least I would have somebody on the trail to use it with. I don;t think we've used it with each other since we got them. Maybe next month in St Helen,

I have the Yaesu FT7900 mainly for ease of mounting. I didn't need a two band radio, but I liked this one.

The thing I really like it for is meeting up with a group if you have to be late or have to leave a group for a while. Even if you're 10 miles away, you can find them.

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If you run with a group where some of the members have Ham Radios, no reason why not.

Most of us run CB radios and they can be great or unreliable. Really depends. But they are cheap to install and better than nothing.

I don't have a Ham yet, do have a CB, and am thinking about adding FRS radios to my rig.
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Not that anyone should listen to oz97tj on the trail. Not if you want to come home with all your paint or fender flairs.
Lol. I had no trouble. You guys all need to learn how to drive. Lol

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If you run with a group where some of the members have Ham Radios, no reason why not.

Most of us run CB radios and they can be great or unreliable. Really depends. But they are cheap to install and better than nothing.

I don't have a Ham yet, do have a CB, and am thinking about adding FRS radios to my rig.
CBs are great if installed correctly. All too often, guys blame their radios or antenna when the piss poor performance is because they did a bad install. Still, CBs are limited. I've been on runs where the leader couldn't talk with the gunner due to trees and hills.

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I looked at this once & didn't have any other hams in the group I wheeled with, so I chose not to. If your group has hams in it, yes, it's a better form of communication than CB. But if not - the fact you can call someone else wasn't appealing to me. YMMV.
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I looked at this once & didn't have any other hams in the group I wheeled with, so I chose not to. If your group has hams in it, yes, it's a better form of communication than CB. But if not - the fact you can call someone else wasn't appealing to me. YMMV.
Be the first. Others will follow. There are obvious advantages, but everyone always uses the, "nobody else" excuse. A basic setup costs similar to a decent CB.

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I also have both- Midland CB with Wilson 4' flexible - Yaesu FT7900 dual band

The ham radio has much greater distance. If you don't have cellphone service this may make the difference in an emergency situation.
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Just wondering if you decided on getting a ham ticket or not? I have been a ham for about13years now never thought about putting one in the jeep because of all the water and the price for a new radio.LOL,They are very cool and a great way to communicate.
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Post Added HAM and GMRS

I added a Ham Radio to my rig along with the CB and the GMRS radios. The cost of a Ham license is much cheaper than the GMRS license. ($15.00 for 10 years vs. $85 for 5 years for the GMRS) It takes about 10 hours of study to pass the Tech test for Ham. The General test if not to bad to take. The extra class is a little harder...

A note on the GMRS license, There is no test, just pay the fee and one GMRS license covers your whole family.

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Both, because the Ham radio has better range than CB, but many organized events still require CB, although some are going to FRS/GMRS.

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Cobra 75 (for talking within the group; no one else is a Ham in my club).
Yaesu FT7900 dual band (for emergencies, i.e. someone gets seriously hurt).

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Post Ham/CB Radio

I just have a Yaesu VX-7 6m, 2m, 220 MHz, 440 mhz. Dual receive It's an HT, but I have it mounted in the base charger on my dash with external antenna, speaker and mic. The VX-7 is a submersible unit so if it gets a little rain on it, no problem.

For the CB I have a Cobra 75 It's a little old as it's been recycled from my old land rover, but it works. I seldom turn on the CB unless I'm wheeling with a group using them.
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Any there any units that support CB and Ham in a single receiver/transmitter?
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Any there any units that support CB and Ham in a single receiver/transmitter?
Yes and No. You can receive/monitor CB, GMRS and FRS on the ham radio, but it will not be able to transmit on that frequency. Some Hams can transmit on GMRS\FRS but I'm not sure its legal. Not to mention that the GMRS/FRS tones are a pain to set up on a Ham radio.

At the end of the day it's just easier to have to correct radios for the intended use.

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Post CB frequencies

Here is a little more help. This is a list of the CB frequencies.

The maximum range is mostly based on near line of site. This is good for a group off roading as you really only want to talk to your group. It is limited to only 40 channels and short range, but requires no license and no special skills to use. Many Ham radios can monitor these but very few can transmit on this frequency range.

Frequency Alpha Tag
26.96500 CB Ch 01
26.97500 CB Ch 02
26.98500 CB Ch 03
27.00500 CB Ch 04
27.01500 CB Ch 05
27.02500 CB Ch 06
27.03500 CB Ch 07
27.05500 CB Ch 08
27.06500 CB Ch 09
27.07500 CB Ch 10
27.08500 CB Ch 11
27.10500 CB Ch 12
27.11500 CB Ch 13
27.12500 CB Ch 14
27.13500 CB Ch 15
27.15500 CB Ch 16
27.16500 CB Ch 17
27.17500 CB Ch 18
27.18500 CB Ch 19
27.20500 CB Ch 20
27.21500 CB Ch 21
27.22500 CB Ch 22
27.25500 CB Ch 23
27.23500 CB Ch 24
27.24500 CB Ch 25
27.26500 CB Ch 26
27.27500 CB Ch 27
27.28500 CB Ch 28
27.29500 CB Ch 29
27.30500 CB Ch 30
27.31500 CB Ch 31
27.32500 CB Ch 32
27.33500 CB Ch 33
27.34500 CB Ch 34
27.35500 CB Ch 35
27.36500 CB Ch 36
27.37500 CB Ch 37
27.38500 CB Ch 38
27.39500 CB Ch 39
27.40500 CB Ch 40

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Here is some info on FRS radios. FRS is very close to the 2 meter band of Ham radios and some can be modified to work on FRS frequencies. They can also be programed to use the privacy tones, but it's a little work to do so.

Family Radio Service (FRS)
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NOTE: FRS is an unlicensed, low power (500mW), UHF, general radio service that is designated for use in North America. Operation in your country is subject to local policies. Radios for the Family Radio Service:are limited to one-half watt of effective radiated power. may not have removable antennas, nor can the antenna that came with the radio be replaced or modified with any type of antenna other than the type it was designed to use. may not connect to external antennas to increase the range of operation. must be type accepted for use in the FRS.

Frequency Assignments for TalkAbout T6300 Plus

Channel
1 462.5625
2 462.5875
3 462.6125
4 462.6375
5 462.6625
6 462.6875
7 462.7125
8 467.5625
9 467.5875
10 467.6125
11 467.6375
12 467.6625
13 467.6875
14 467.7125

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General Mobile Radio Service

The General Mobile Radio Service (GMRS) is a land-mobile UHF radio service in the United States available for short-distance two-way communications to facilitate the activities of an adult individual who possesses a valid GMRS license, as well his or her immediate family members, including a spouse, children, parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, nephews, nieces, and in-laws (47 CFR 95.179). Immediate relatives of the GMRS system licensee are entitled to communicate among themselves over the general area of their residence or during recreational group outings, such as camping or hiking.
GMRS radios are typically handheld portable devices much like Family Radio Service (FRS) radios, and share some frequencies. Mobile and base station-style radios are available as well, but these are normally commercial UHF radios often used in the public service and commercial land mobile bands. These are legal for use in this service as long as they are GMRS type-approved. They are more expensive than the walkie talkies typically found in discount electronics stores, but are higher quality.

Frequency Type Alpha Tag Description Mode Tag
462.55000 BM GMRS462.5500 Common Use or Repeater Output FM Other
462.56250 BM GMRS462.5625 Common Use (shared with FRS) FM Other
462.57500 BM GMRS462.5750 Common or Repeater Output FM Other
462.58750 BM GMRS462.5875 Common Use (shared with FRS) FM Other
462.60000 BM GMRS462.6000 Common or Repeater Output FM Other
462.61250 BM GMRS462.6125 Common Use (shared with FRS) FM Other
462.62500 BM GMRS462.6250 Common or Repeater Output FM Other
462.63750 BM GMRS462.6375 Common Use (shared with FRS) FM Other
462.65000 BM GMRS462.6500 Common or Repeater Output FM Other
462.66250 BM GMRS462.6625 Common Use (shared with FRS) FM Other
462.67500 BM GMRS462.6750 Common or Repeater Output FM Other
462.68750 BM GMRS462.6875 Common Use (shared with FRS) FM Other
462.70000 BM GMRS462.7000 Common or Repeater Output FM Other
462.71250 BM GMRS462.7125 Common Use (shared with FRS) FM Other
462.72500 BM GMRS462.7250 Common or Repeater Output FM Other
467.55000 BM GMRS467.5500 Common Use and/or Repeater Input FM Other
467.57500 BM GMRS467.5750 Common Use and/or Repeater Input FM Other
467.60000 BM GMRS467.6000 Common Use and/or Repeater Input FM Other
467.62500 BM GMRS467.6250 Common Use and/or Repeater Input FM Other
467.65000 BM GMRS467.6500 Common Use and/or Repeater Input FM Other
467.67500 BM GMRS467.6750 Common Use and/or Repeater Input FM Other
467.70000 BM GMRS467.7000 Common Use and/or Repeater Input FM Other
467.72500 BM GMRS467.7250 Common Use and/or Repeater Input FM Other

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HAm Radios can transmit on many bands depending on the radio in use and your license level. There is almost no place in the lower 48 that you can't reach a repeater even with a hand held radio with 5 watts.
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I may grab a little CB at some point, but since I became an amateur radio op in 2008, it's all I've consistently had in my vehicle.

I have a Kenwood TM281 mobile 2 meter unit now. I have two antennas. I small antenna for around town and a 5/8 wave antenna for trails/camping/road trips. Both NMO mount. I also have a couple little HTs I'll grab from time to time.

Mostly an HF guy at the house, though. I had a Icom 706MKIIG in the Jeep with a full HF setup, but HF mobile is such a compromise compared to my home setup that it just sucked. (Bencher Skyhawk tribander at 55' at the house, plus some wire antennas)

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I may grab a little CB at some point, but since I became an amateur radio op in 2008, it's all I've consistently had in my vehicle.

I have a Kenwood TM281 mobile 2 meter unit now. I have two antennas. I small antenna for around town and a 5/8 wave antenna for trails/camping/road trips. Both NMO mount. I also have a couple little HTs I'll grab from time to time.

Mostly an HF guy at the house, though. I had a Icom 706MKIIG in the Jeep with a full HF setup, but HF mobile is such a compromise compared to my home setup that it just sucked. (Bencher Skyhawk tribander at 55' at the house, plus some wire antennas)

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I have a Kenwood TM281 mobile 2 meter unit now. I have two antennas. I small antenna for around town and a 5/8 wave antenna for trails/camping/road trips. Both NMO mount. I also have a couple little HTs I'll grab from time to time.
Where do you put an NMO on a Jeep? Front cowl?

I was thinking of going for my technician's ticket. Looked at some study guides and most of the stuff I remember from EET. So it's mostly learning the R&R's.

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