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Question Battery and Cable

I'm pretty much a novice when it comes to dese elektrikals en deiser Jeep. This is what I'm running/going to run:

-1 pair Lightforce 170 Strykers on windshield
-1 pair back-up lights
-Subwoofer
-Superwinch EPi 9.0
-1 pair PIAA 520s on front bumper
-Air Compressor (MAYBE)

Is this too much for 1 battery to handle? If not, I'm currently more inclined to go with a sPOD (based on searches, research, and an earlier post) that a dual battery set-up.

Here's why I ask ...I've about blown my wad on mods this year, and don't have the funds for a sPOD. I also don't want to drill too many more holes in my Jeep for switches if I need to eventually get a sPOD (right now I have two drilled for lights, and I'm ordering a plate from 12VoltGuy for the winch).

--Do I need a sPOD? If so, and I drill the holes for the 12VoltGuy plate, can I use my existing switches for the sPOD, or do I have to use the switch plate that comes with the sPOD?

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sPod really just organizes all your switches and relays. It's very nice, but will not make your electrical system any "stronger" with the more accessories you run. It's convenient but is not vital to having a system that works well. That was in response to "if I need to eventually get a sPOD "; If that makes any sense.

Likely you aren't going to be blaring the stereo, running the air compressor, winching 9000lbs, in reverse and trying to lightup the world at the same time. The biggest killer of your battery will be the winch under heavy load. Keeping the rpm up while winching will help by letting the alternator kick out more amperage. But a hard/long pull can really wipe out a stock battery in one shot.

Dual battery is best for winching, however I'll likely just go with a single good diehard and take my chances. The dual battery will also be beneficial if you plan on running that stereo hard with the Jeep off. It will keep you from killing your starting battery.

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sPod really just organizes all your switches and relays. It's very nice, but will not make your electrical system any "stronger" with the more accessories you run. It's convenient but is not vital to having a system that works well. That was in response to "if I need to eventually get a sPOD "; If that makes any sense.

Likely you aren't going to be blaring the stereo, running the air compressor, winching 9000lbs, in reverse and trying to lightup the world at the same time. The biggest killer of your battery will be the winch under heavy load. Keeping the rpm up while winching will help by letting the alternator kick out more amperage. But a hard/long pull can really wipe out a stock battery in one shot.

Dual battery is best for winching, however I'll likely just go with a single good diehard and take my chances. The dual battery will also be beneficial if you plan on running that stereo hard with the Jeep off. It will keep you from killing your starting battery.

Dude!!! Thank you very much. Makes perfect sense and helps out tremendously. I'm cool with eventually going dual batteries ...and I'm looking at picking up a Die Hard before winter hits anyway. Like I said ...very much a newb in the electrical dept and wanting to make the right choices the first time.

Thanks again ...cheers

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Dude!!! Thank you very much. Makes perfect sense and helps out tremendously. I'm cool with eventually going dual batteries ...and I'm looking at picking up a Die Hard before winter hits anyway. Like I said ...very much a newb in the electrical dept and wanting to make the right choices the first time.

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Dual battery kits.......I could use a little JK dual battery kit pimpin, so if you would like a dual battery kit, contact me ( call, or email ) & I will GIVE you one to get the word out, I even combine a incab winch control & dual battery kit in same panel.
What is the cost on your dual kit? The "other" kit is too much for me to consider...for what it is. Was tossing around trying a diy

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What is the cost on your dual kit? The "other" kit is too much for me to consider...for what it is.
$129, includes
panel with switch & LEDs single or dual
in dash or under dash, small mini switch type, or larger panel with full size switch & LEDs
or combo dual battery & winch controller, those are $199 with in cab wire kit too, at 2x2.5
I'll be making those in JK size this week & adding them to my site
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solenoid 100A, optional 200A + $25
battery cables, x2 3 footers or a 3 foot & 8 foot, these are4 ga, suply flexy high strand welding cable, I make these, I get cable in 250' rolls, cut to size, crimp with hydro crimper & use Triple-wall adhesive polyolefin heat shrink tubing to keep out moisture
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Can you explain the different size solenoids and why you would need a larger one? Is the full current to one battery going through a solenoid at all times besides when everything is off?

Battery mounting. Is just s universal tray used on a Jk?

What about a marine style battery switch for simplicity?

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Can you explain the different size solenoids and why you would need a larger one? Is the full current to one battery going through a solenoid at all times besides when everything is off?

Battery mounting. Is just s universal tray used on a Jk?

What about a marine style battery switch for simplicity?
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Can you explain the different size solenoids and why you would need a larger one? Is the full current to one battery going through a solenoid at all times besides when everything is off?

Battery mounting. Is just s universal tray used on a Jk?

What about a marine style battery switch for simplicity?
if you have a big high amp altenator over 125a, go with bigger solenoid
current only oes through solenoid wehen there is a draw.
email me & I will send you full wire & instruction sheets, FREE
I give out all my wire sheets weather you purchase or not, I'm a wheeler 1st


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A great way to step into dual batteries is the Stage 1 kit. The price can't be beat and you can always upgrade it to Stage 2 or 3 down the road for additional features and capacity.

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12VoltGuy has some nice stuff.

You need a JK specific tray.

cool looking tray.
Battery trays are an item I woukd rather buy then try to build.
& they can be a tight fit in a JK or TJ, electricty is not something you want to come loose, shorting battery cables can & WILL burn your rig to the ground


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looks like it's got a dual stage powder coat
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Seriously! Does he ever get that thing dirty anymore?
I try im waiting for the bumpstop fairy to show up so i can wheel it hard again


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Thanks man more work lol

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Thanks man more work lol

Your bronco looks bad ass im going to frame the issue with your rig on the front because it makes me miss my big bronco.........
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thx, Didn't think I would ever get on cover of 4wheeler

hopefully I can sell that & build my 69 jeepster, if not it's going to get the broncos drivetrain & go to a 39.5 or 42 irok


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thx, Didn't think I would ever get on cover of 4wheeler

hopefully I can sell that & build my 69 jeepster, if not it's going to get the broncos drivetrain & go to a 39.5 or 42 irok
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Dont do it you will regret selling it..... I think about mine daily
I hear ya, but this thing is big, & heavy 7500lbs on the trail & I just want different
I've hasd well over 100 cars/trucks & never had a trail rig over 4 years
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I love the 4.3L motor, it's just a 2wd xcab, my dd & hauls my crf450 to trails
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