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post #1 of 18 Old 04-03-2017, 10:10 AM Thread Starter
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50 light bar - flood or hybrid?

I'm looking to add a 50-inch bar to the JKU. I've read a mess of posts and reviewed all of the light patterns on the Rigid website as well as watched a bunch of reviews on YouTube. Im struggling to pick a pattern.

I live in Colorado and wheel mostly during the day but drift into the night (guessing) about 15%. I wheel trails specifically about 5 times per year. I'm never in a situation where I'm driving high-speeds in the dark so distance is less important than a large wide field of view.

I'm not set on my lighting configuration/setup. I can fit up to a 20 on the front bumper, run pillars, and/or a 50 light rack. I have JW Speaker fog's and will be upgrading to The Speaker headlights soon.

I think the pictures and video's have a difficult time showing examples of the patterns. If anyone has personal experience with the flood (good or bad) I'd appreciate the feedback.

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So you only run about 5 trails a year and only drift into the night about 15% of the time? Save your money for something that is more useful.

If you need get the 20" light bar in flood and be done with it.
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So you only run about 5 trails a year and only drift into the night about 15% of the time? Save your money for something that is more useful.



If you need get the 20" light bar in flood and be done with it.


I'm in agreement with this one. Save the money for something more useful not to mention the noise a light bar makes. Throw some pods on the A pillar or a 20" bar on the bumper.


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Here and I thought I really had a good reason to get lights.


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this won't be the most informative reply to your questions, sorry ahead of time but how on earth are you "never in a situation where I'm driving high-speeds in the dark..." and yet you somehow manager to "drift into the night" in a Jeep Wrangler Unlimited?

You must have installed a CAI & a big wing on the back for generating enough down-force to Tokyo Drift that hulk. Mine won't go fast at all.

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this won't be the most informative reply to your questions, sorry ahead of time but how on earth are you "never in a situation where I'm driving high-speeds in the dark..." and yet you somehow manager to "drift into the night" in a Jeep Wrangler Unlimited?

You must have installed a CAI & a big wing on the back for generating enough down-force to Tokyo Drift that hulk. Mine won't go fast at all.



Don't have to go fast to drift, you just need to turn off the traction control and turn into the slide while feathering the throttle. Duh.


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If you are doing JW headlihgts and have the fogs, I would go flood 1 pillars turned out to see the front/side of your jeep.

I personally think light bars on a vehicle are pointless. I live in Texas and most people I talk to say, well its for spot lighting. Well, with that being said how many times are the hog or coyote sitting right in front of your Jeep in perfect view with the light (never in my case). They are spending money just for aesthetics.
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I tend to do quite a few night runs, and a pair of pods in spot pattern on my A-pillar are more than sufficient; and even at that, only ever turn them on for a long steep climbs. Hell, don't even think I've bothered to use them at all since putting trucklites in.

Not to mention that unless you're leading, any pod or bar is just going to annoy the shit out of any and everyone in front of you.
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Not to mention that unless you're leading, any pod or bar is just going to annoy the shit out of any and everyone in front of you.

Interesting point. When I've been thinking about running night trails I'm always leading. In reality I think Ive rarely led because we go in groups (like at EJS). So now I'm thinking the need isn't what I thought it was.

What I really need is lighting that shows the obstacle in front of me really well. Headlights aren't enough (historically). Guess I need to figure out where I need more light in my field of view. Maybe a 20" and A's would be more than sufficient if aimed correctly.




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Interesting point. When I've been thinking about running night trails I'm always leading. In reality I think Ive rarely led because we go in groups (like at EJS). So now I'm thinking the need isn't what I thought it was.

What I really need is lighting that shows the obstacle in front of me really well. Headlights aren't enough (historically). Guess I need to figure out where I need more light in my field of view. Maybe a 20" and A's would be more than sufficient if aimed correctly.




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Find you a good set of rock lights. Should be more than enough light at the speeds you're talking about.


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Get the jwspeakers first. Your perceived need for a bar might change. I have gen 1 jwspeakers which are vastly superior to stock, now my 2 driving lights only get used on those long 18 hr drives to remote work sites. (Usually not even then)

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I'm looking to add a 50-inch bar to the JKU. I've read a mess of posts and reviewed all of the light patterns on the Rigid website as well as watched a bunch of reviews on YouTube. Im struggling to pick a pattern.

I live in Colorado and wheel mostly during the day but drift into the night (guessing) about 15%. I wheel trails specifically about 5 times per year. I'm never in a situation where I'm driving high-speeds in the dark so distance is less important than a large wide field of view.

I'm not set on my lighting configuration/setup. I can fit up to a 20 on the front bumper, run pillars, and/or a 50 light rack. I have JW Speaker fog's and will be upgrading to The Speaker headlights soon.

I think the pictures and video's have a difficult time showing examples of the patterns. If anyone has personal experience with the flood (good or bad) I'd appreciate the feedback.

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I would run the double pod setup on the pillars angled at varied degrees outward with the 20 inch combo beam up front. With the JW speaker heads and fogs you will have more than enough light. My current set up is obnoxiously bright, it consists of a 50" combo, LED heads and fogs, and some flood pattern pods angled slightly outward on the bumper. This however is extremely useful when the closest street light is miles from where you live and every road you drive on is a two lane highway with corn, wheat, or some other crop on either side. Something about this place makes all the Deer want to kill themselves... They are always just leaping out in front of you
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Realizing no one answered your actual question (I have various lights for different situations) - I'd go for a hybrid over a flood on the 50" if you decide to go that route. I do agree - the 50" is prob unnecessary entirely (I still have one) and you cannot use that bad boy unless you're the lead Jeep/vehicle in a group for sure.
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Realizing no one answered your actual question (I have various lights for different situations) - I'd go for a hybrid over a flood on the 50" if you decide to go that route. I do agree - the 50" is prob unnecessary entirely (I still have one) and you cannot use that bad boy unless you're the lead Jeep/vehicle in a group for sure.


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I would run the double pod setup on the pillars angled at varied degrees outward with the 20 inch combo beam up front. With the JW speaker heads and fogs you will have more than enough light. My current set up is obnoxiously bright, it consists of a 50" combo, LED heads and fogs, and some flood pattern pods angled slightly outward on the bumper.
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Realizing no one answered your actual question (I have various lights for different situations) - I'd go for a hybrid over a flood on the 50" if you decide to go that route. I do agree - the 50" is prob unnecessary entirely (I still have one) and you cannot use that bad boy unless you're the lead Jeep/vehicle in a group for sure.
^^^This too.

I don't have all the light that GetOut has, but do have a 50" combo bar plus TruckLite LED headlights. The TruckLites are almost enough by themselves for almost any situation I find myself in from street to highway to trail to desert (I don't do high speeds either). The high beams can be a little too much on some highways where the signs have a lot of reflectivity. It's not cool when you get blinded by a sign. And the 50 is very rarely used, and only when I'm in front. It's bright. I think it's useful even on tight trails because of the flood section at each side, but again, it's limited.

One thing I like to do on a night run (when I'm not in front) is turn off the headlights and use only the fogs. That gets the light down low and doesn't blind the driver ahead of me. I'm pretty attentive to that because I wear glasses and after a day on the trail, there's enough dust on them that any light shining on the back side of the lenses makes it impossible to resolve detail. Anyone who wears glasses probably knows exactly what I'm talking about. So, since it bothers me so badly, I try not to do that to other people. It also eliminates the reflection of my own headlights off the back of the guy in front of me. I would like to upgrade the fogs to LEDs though, to get a brighter and whiter light. And the cubes on the windshield for side lighting are definitely on the list.
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I'm have the same setup as @GetOut has on mine as well, 50" across the top, a pod on each a-pillar, with JDM ASTAR LED bulbs in the headlights and fogs, flush mounted some pods in the factory rear bumper for F-Off/Reverse lights, and just installed some cheap-o clearance lights the other week (picked em up at Tractor Supply).

I live in Florida and hit the closest trails as much as possible (Citrus/Withlacoochee WMA), if possible at least once a month after stopping by the Veterans Cemetery (Bushnell) to pay respects. I run the setup just because it's not always clear sunny skies over here, I've had to use my lights during night time hurricanes/tropical storms when you just couldn't see shit in front of you. I also volunteer on a horse farm and get there when it's dark as hell out, so I've had to use em there several times also. I think my total lumen output is something ridiculous like 50-60,000 lumens. Literally makes my CCTV cameras on the house go from night, to day mode when I turn everything on. It's humorous, but good grief, shits bright.

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I'm looking to add a 50-inch bar to the JKU. I've read a mess of posts and reviewed all of the light patterns on the Rigid website as well as watched a bunch of reviews on YouTube. Im struggling to pick a pattern.

I live in Colorado and wheel mostly during the day but drift into the night (guessing) about 15%. I wheel trails specifically about 5 times per year. I'm never in a situation where I'm driving high-speeds in the dark so distance is less important than a large wide field of view.

I'm not set on my lighting configuration/setup. I can fit up to a 20 on the front bumper, run pillars, and/or a 50 light rack. I have JW Speaker fog's and will be upgrading to The Speaker headlights soon.

I think the pictures and video's have a difficult time showing examples of the patterns. If anyone has personal experience with the flood (good or bad) I'd appreciate the feedback.

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I only have one smaller light bar up front on my jeep but having used it for a bit now I can say if I was going for a full size 50(or is it 52inch) light bar up top I'd go with a flood pattern. Granted my light bar is a cheap one and its smaller but the light is bright even with the combo light pattern, mine don't go out too far and you can't really get away with running a 50inch bar up top on the road so with that said, you don't need too much light far ahead of you off road. I can drive in trails or offroad in the dark with just my light bar and the slow speeds means I can stop with plenty of room within the range of the light. I do find mine useful when I'm going around hilly or twisty back roads. With the wide circle spread of the light, it helps to see approaching turns, going down a hill approaching a dip in the road etc etc.


If I was going to run a full set up of lights on my jeep I'd run a flood pattern only or a combo up above the windshield, then some high quality spot lights on each side to help with long distance.

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I agree, change over to some JW or trucklites before going to a light bar or pods. I have 20W pods on my bumper and a 250W 50in on top of windshield. The lightbar is bright and will wash out any other lights you have. If you're only doing 5 trails a year upgrading your head lights would be more than sufficient for you i think.

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