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Fog Lamp Recommendations

I searched "fog" and got 364 threads so pardon if I'm asking a repeat question. Looking for your good or bad experience on fog light upgrade. Considering PIAA 05330 LED's, but have never actually seen them lit-up.

Second question, what's your opinion on white vs amber color beam?

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Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply
Daniel Stern has some science and links to research that back it up.
Seems to say there appears to be less glare with yellow only because our eyes don't see blue sharply.
There is no difference in penetration or scattering with either color because the particles are larger than the wavelength...or something.

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Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply
Daniel Stern has some science and links to research that back it up.
Seems to say there appears to be less glare with yellow only because our eyes don't see blue sharply.
There is no difference in penetration or scattering with either color because the particles are larger than the wavelength...or something.
Very interesting.

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Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply
Daniel Stern has some science and links to research that back it up.
Now this is what I call an answewr!! Thanks for sharing, coilrod.

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Haven't had the opportunity to really use them yet but have been happy with the amount of light my lights from Baja Designs throw out. Great customer service and the kits came with everything needed to install.

In the "fog pockets" with amber lenses
https://www.bajadesigns.com/Products...Pocket-Kit.asp

Mounted to the bumper
https://www.bajadesigns.com/products...iary-Light.asp


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those are very nice BD lights you are running & a swank-looking bumper they are mounted on.


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rebeltrubi, nice lights. Thanks. Isn't that the Metalcloak modular front bumper you have? I just ordered the one I think you have w/ same winch guard.

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Been happy with both companies. Thanks

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Yes sir. Been happy with their stuff, service has also been top notch. If you're running a winch make sure you order either their fairlead or the adaptor.

(I see both of y'all are in the great state of Tennessee. I hope you and yours are safe and sound)

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That's considerate of you; I'm far to the West of the fires (and Nashville proper) .My family home is up in N.Georgia mnts and until they got rain a few days ago ,were in potentially serious trouble. Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge area is still parched and in serious danger .I flew home from business a few weeks back and had to come home via Atlanta and you could see fires all across the lower Appalachian foothills from S.Chattanooga northward. Scary stuff.


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(I see both of y'all are in the great state of Tennessee. I hope you and yours are safe and sound)
A good friend's brother totally lost his high end restaurant in Gatlinberg. Two resorts and 100 plus structures a total loss so It is a disaster up there. I live south of Knoxville and last night a tornado ripped through Polk County 10 mi east of me killing 3-4 and demolishing buildings, so we are getting bad luck. Thanks for the comment.

On the lights I'm going amber based on the article posted here and sticking with PIAA based on Metalcloak selecting them to package with two of their bumpers. Thanks to everyone for your responses. I come to JKOWNERS forum as my default because of the good knowledge base and attitude of our members.

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A good friend's brother totally lost his high end restaurant in Gatlinberg. Two resorts and 100 plus structures a total loss so It is a disaster up there. I live south of Knoxville and last night a tornado ripped through Polk County 10 mi east of me killing 3-4 and demolishing buildings, so we are getting bad luck. Thanks for the comment.

On the lights I'm going amber based on the article posted here and sticking with PIAA based on Metalcloak selecting them to package with two of their bumpers. Thanks to everyone for your responses. I come to JKOWNERS forum as my default because of the good knowledge base and attitude of our members.



sorry to hear that about your friends brother; that area gets a lot of [email protected] but his is particularly seeming to be a bad end to a bad year. I am too busy with work this very moment to stop, but I did notice that the local Jeep group around Tennessee - search Facebook for " Jeeps and Wrenches - Main Page " - has been initiating a Gatlinburg Relief Help drive today..

Oh, on subject of what makes JKOwners the default forum for many of us, you left the most-important reason that comes-in just ahead of "..good knowledge and attitude of our members..." off your list @ratchettt


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I'm running the KC amber fogs. So far I really like them. They are awesome in snow and fog.
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I searched "fog" and got 364 threads so pardon if I'm asking a repeat question. Looking for your good or bad experience on fog light upgrade. Considering PIAA 05330 LED's, but have never actually seen them lit-up.



Second question, what's your opinion on white vs amber color beam?


I installed the Xprite fog lights and am pretty happy with them.



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Have the JW Speaker fogs. The fit is really good, though I removed my bumper just to install them.
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These two links are for posts from our own UMCDOC14. This may help.

https://www.jkowners.com/forum/electr...ed-lights.html


https://www.jkowners.com/forum/chit-c...eadlights.html
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Once again thanks everyone. Great help!!

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Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply
Daniel Stern has some science and links to research that back it up.
Seems to say there appears to be less glare with yellow only because our eyes don't see blue sharply.
There is no difference in penetration or scattering with either color because the particles are larger than the wavelength...or something.
Interesting stuff!

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Blue, indigo, and violet are difficult for the human optical system to process correctly. They are the shortest visible wavelengths and tend to focus in front of our retina rather than upon it. To demonstrate this to yourself, after dark find a deep blue storefront sign or blue lights on an airport runway or something else that's a deep blue light emitter against a dark background in the absence of white light—from any appreciable distance, it's almost impossible for your eyes to see the blue lighted object as a sharply defined form;the edges blur. The blur effect is not present with nearby signs or lights of colours other than blue.
At my daughters dance concert on the weekend, at several points between performances there was a blue spotlight shining on a silver Christmas tree. With my glasses on, it was blurred even though other things were focused, BUT, when I took the glasses off, the blue lit tree was focused & everything else was blurred!

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I have the rigid dot approved fog lights and I love them, they are pretty bright and do there job in dense fog
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The retrofit source has some really nice projector type led fogs that I am running. Check out the link

https://www.theretrofitsource.com/je...to-xb-led.html

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I recently installed these LED clone fogs, $44 from Amazon - they have a wide beam with a good horizontal cutoff, and they put out a nice white light that is plenty bright. After removing the front bumper cover piece (I had to drill out the push pins to get it off), installation was quickly done from the top. I ordered new push pins. Each light has an adjusting screw for vertical adjustment of the beam.

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Since I'm a newbie, I just discovered that they won't let me post links or photos yet. But you can find the fogs I bought by searching Amazon for "Xprite 4 Inch 60W Cree Led Fog Lights for Jeep Wrangler"
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I've used them a couple of times on foggy country backroads, and they work great.
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