Someone asked if I would post my experience of these lights on here. Here it is, hopefully it helps someone make an informed decision about some aux lights.
Originally I had just posted the whole original review (that I had posted on other forums), and attached my thoughts and later posts. I've since edited it down somewhat to include my actual experience with them, as well as some thoughts I had afterwards.
Also, these are apparently almost identical to the HIDx lights (QStar?), and the 4" Hella Otiplux (sp). From what I can see from LOOKING at pictures, this is true. I can't speak for the durability of these lights. I took them on a 27 hr 1800km road trip, then removed them when I traded in the XJ for the JK. I haven't put on any lights since (although have plans to when I finally make time). I don't really want to get into the differences in the lights (or lack there of). I'll let you research this on your own. But as these lights all appear to be very very similar, I doubt there would be much of a difference in performance (durability and track record is another matter).
Okay, my attempt here to is write a review, or my opinion of these lights. I took a bunch of pictures, but all that showed up is the lower part of the beam (see crappy hand drawn image of the Eurobeam/Drivingbeam pattern below).
This winter I had picked up four 4" RR HID driving lights, and two 7" driving lights. When I first tested these in the field behind my house (maybe 150 yards long) I was pretty disappointed in them, and was ready to dump $1150 into some Hella HIDs. However before I called the sales rep back, I decided to take these lights to my gun range and test them there. In addition to the extra (and marked) length, there was no outside lights at all (where as the field had a bunch of lights around 2 sides). The testing was done with a single light held at hood level in total darkness.
This is what the beam pattern looks like:
I've assigned some values just so there's no confusion with the words.
10/10 = great lighting
1/10 = very poor lighting
Ok, now to what I found out. I initially started off with one 4" light. Using the light, I was able to clearly see the 100 yard markers (10/10), easily see the 200 yard marker (6/10) and barely able to see the 300 yrd markers (2/10) (it's right at the edge of the light and if I didn't know it was there, I doubt I'd be able to pick it out). I'm sure if you measured the light it would go out much farther, but this is what I can see with this light (so useable light). This is with one 4" light that cost me $130 ($260 CND for both, including shipping to Northern Canada).
Now on to the 7" light (the 4" was put away). When I first tested these in the field I noticed little difference between the 4" light and the 7" light... Clearly I didn't have a big enough field. Again, I was clearly able to see the 100 yrd markers (10/10), I was clearly able to see the 200 yrd markers (9/10), I could easily make out the 300 yrd markers (6/10), and could make out both the 400 yard markers (4/10) and the 500 yard markers (3/10). Yes that's right... I could see tree's and **** out past 500 yards. I paid approximately $125 CND a light (including shipping to Northern Canada).
To give you some comparison, my 2 yr old used and abused Lightforce 170 55w lights could see the 200 yrd markers (4/10) and the 300 yrd markers was right at the fringe of the light (1/10). The light was also the halogen yellow and made things hard to see. And from experience, that in poor conditions with some time, they will strain your eyes. Where as the HIDs offered a bright pure white light.
I've attached a picture, but it honestly doesn't even come close to doing these lights justice. This is at the 100 yrd targets. What this picture doesn't show, is that the horizontal beam pattern was quite wide (it covered the whole width of the range when I was looking at the 300yrd+ range). The light on the ground (before the targets) is from the bulge on the bottom of the beam pattern (see above).
Now, after seeing how well these lights performed, I'll not be calling the store back about the Hella HIDs. This isn't because I don't think these lights could be improved on (because there are probably better lights out there), but that for the price of the Hella's, I'm really wondering if the difference will be enough to justify the cost. If I had the chance to do this all over again, knowing what I do now, I doubt I'd even look at the Hella's. My total cost on these was around $700 Canadian (for 6 lights). And while I was willing to pay much more than that to be able to see, it doesn't look like I'll have to.
- Decent lighting (250/300 yards with 4"/500yards with 7")
- 4" lights are pretty compact
- After market covers are available (including amber covers - although I can't remember if these are out yet, or are just coming out)
- Internal ballast
- Cheap for HID lights
- Comes with a clear rock/stone guard
- Horrible aiming adapter (I mean really bad - when I looked at mounting them on the new JK, I put a ton of tape over the teeth (I was in rush). I'll be filing down the bottom brackets before using these this time around). If you don't have an adjustable mounting bracket (my front bumper ones had a hinge in them) you might have to do something about the bracket to aim them correctly (unless you luck out with where/how you mount them).
- the 7" lights are pretty big! I doubt you could fit more than 3 on your bumper - although depending on what you want/need, you probably don't need more than 3.
- Chinese made (I had 2 DOAs on the 7" lights - again these were the RR lights I had - I can't speak for the other brands that look very similar)
- No options for beam patterns (spot/flood/driving)
Great lights for the price. The fact that there's some aftermarket accessories for them from HIDx that should
fit the RRs (I haven't tried yet, but will soon). I'm disappointed with the aiming bracket (I think this could really be improved on), but it's very simple and straight forward to use. And the light output will definitely make up for not being able to aim them perfectly. And to be honest, I don't think it would matter to most people (I'm kinda anal about my lights).
While I won't be using all RR lights for my lighting needs, I'll definitely be using some of the 4" ones to cover the ditches. These are a great bang for buck light and unless you're anal about your lights (like me) I don't think you'll be disappointed. Just because they're really affordable for HIDs (~100-150 per light for both the 4" and 7" - depending on where you get them), doesn't mean they're complete crap. These are actually pretty decent lights.
Would I buy them again knowing what I know now? Yes definitely - but I would do some research into the HIDx and RR brands for these lights, and why (from my understanding) RR isn't still selling these (or shouldn't be).