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post #1 of 10 Old 11-15-2014, 10:50 AM Thread Starter
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European Spec self-leveling headlights

The European standard these days calls for self-adjusting/leveling headlamps. I'm assuming that the Euro JK has some self adjusting motorized levelers possibly with an inside manual control much like I've seen in European sportscars. I'd like to retro-fit my JK with the levelers

Anybody done this? Seen this? Have a source for the parts? My searches turned up a bunch of nothing.

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If you look at the radiator surround on the JK, there is already a provision for the adjuster linear motors, the harness replacement and electronics would the hard part. I imagine you'd have to replace a portion or all of that harness and get something flashed. The only thing i'm not certain of is whether the leveling is controlled locally inside each leveler or through a BCM function.

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The kit you're looking for is also fitted to Aussie spec Jk's.
here's a pic of the motor and plug, 3 pin on my small finger.
The name on the unit is Valeo France.

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Thanks, that's a start at least.

I'm not sure I'll ever be able to get the parts/harness and likely reflashing needed to make it all integrated like yours comes from the factory. But, I might be able to lay hands on the adjusting motors and run some manual switches to control them.

Now a part number for those motors would be nice, anybody?

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Now a part number for those motors would be nice, anybody?
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that would be handy, and not too difficult if the wiring harness is the same. since it's a selectable position switch, don't see why it would require a flash, just needs power.
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Yeah, but I suspect it's like everything else on the JK... that switch does not power the adjusters directly, but rather tells the CAN bus that you want the headlights adjusted, then the body control module or something does the actual work.... For that to happen with the factory switch, the Jeep would have to be flashed to know that it has the adjustable headlight option.

My original thought was to bypass the CAN bus and setup the adjusters to a manual switch... but it's easier to just turn the torx driver a little each time I switch between the hardtop and soft top.

I'd be cool though, and if someone else figured it out, I'd totally copy it.

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Yeah, but I suspect it's like everything else on the JK... that switch does not power the adjusters directly, but rather tells the CAN bus that you want the headlights adjusted, then the body control module or something does the actual work.... For that to happen with the factory switch, the Jeep would have to be flashed to know that it has the adjustable headlight option.
Unlikely in this case. A CAN bus device would typically have a minimum of 4 wires. GND, +12V, CANH, and CANL. With only 3 pins, something else is going on. It could be some other digital protocol, but I would be tempted to say it's probably GND, Motor, and Sensor and could be manually wired up. Not sure, just a gut feel on this part.

A device of this simplicity is often not actually CAN (similar to how E-lockers, ABS sensors, etc. are not CAN). You never know though, because you'd think the E-swaybar would not be CAN and it is.
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Unlikely in this case. A CAN bus device would typically have a minimum of 4 wires. GND, +12V, CANH, and CANL. With only 3 pins, something else is going on. It could be some other digital protocol, but I would be tempted to say it's probably GND, Motor, and Sensor and could be manually wired up. Not sure, just a gut feel on this part.

A device of this simplicity is often not actually CAN (similar to how E-lockers, ABS sensors, etc. are not CAN). You never know though, because you'd think the E-swaybar would not be CAN and it is.
Drive too fast and the computer will disengage your lockers... definitely not a simple switch-controlled on-off circuit.

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Unlikely in this case. A CAN bus device would typically have a minimum of 4 wires. GND, +12V, CANH, and CANL. With only 3 pins, something else is going on. It could be some other digital protocol, but I would be tempted to say it's probably GND, Motor, and Sensor and could be manually wired up. Not sure, just a gut feel on this part.

A device of this simplicity is often not actually CAN (similar to how E-lockers, ABS sensors, etc. are not CAN). You never know though, because you'd think the E-swaybar would not be CAN and it is.
Drive too fast and the computer will disengage your lockers... definitely not a simple switch-controlled on-off circuit.
Yes the computer is controlling it, but there's no CAN or computers in the axles, just a 12v actuator and resistive plunger sensor. You can bypass and add your own locker switches easily easily because there's no CAN in the axle. Contrasted to the sway bar which requires some electrical knowledge and skills to figure out how to bypass through internal modifications because it takes CAN commands directly.

I'd guess this box is much more like the lockers than the sway bar. Both are computer controlled, but only one takes actual digital communication protocol inputs.
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