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post #1 of 13 Old 01-27-2010, 08:57 AM Thread Starter
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HID headlight vs fog

i want some HID's on my jeep when i finally get it but i cant decide if i wanna do a headlight conversion or run some aux lighting.

im worried about the conversion in the stock housing blinding other drivers when just around town when you dont really need the full power of HID's. and it would probably cut down on the amount of people flashing their lights at you.

but some states have laws regarding aux lighting so i wouldnt have to worry about it if i just did headlights. what do yall say?

and ill be running the HIDX if i go that route http://www.rdmoffroad.com/HIDX---HID-Offroad-Light.aspx

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i want some HID's on my jeep when i finally get it but i cant decide if i wanna do a headlight conversion or run some aux lighting.

im worried about the conversion in the stock housing blinding other drivers when just around town when you dont really need the full power of HID's. and it would probably cut down on the amount of people flashing their lights at you.

but some states have laws regarding aux lighting so i wouldnt have to worry about it if i just did headlights. what do yall say?

and ill be running the HIDX if i go that route http://www.rdmoffroad.com/HIDX---HID-Offroad-Light.aspx
I think it really depends on what type of driving you'll be using the lights for. If it's offroad 4x4, then by all means get the HIDx. Same thing if it's dark highway driving. If it's just dark strech's of road in the city/out skirts of the city, then you may want to look at upgrading the headlights (I don't necessarily mean HIDs (there's other legal options - although if aimed right you shouldn't be blinding everyone).

For me as I do enough night highway (in Northern Canada where animals are a major concern) I went with some RR HIDs (there's a review I did on them on jeepforum). I'll summarize that here for you. They have great light output for the money (at this point should my RRs die, I'll likely replace them with HIDx - apparently RR stole/used HIDx design so I'll support HIDx). However they're a pain in the ass to aim correctly (for vertical) due to the teeth on the receiver mount (I'll be grinding those teeth off this time around). I also found that the 7" are huge, and unless aimed perfectly you won't get the full potential (it will reach out past 500 yrds). The 4" get ~250/300yrds on the rifle range, but as I had to aim them higher on the road I think it was closer to 200-250yrds.

When I sold my XJ, I left the two 7's behind as they were too big. I took the four 4's, and have recently purchased 3 6" Eagle Eye Spot beam lights to attempt to get the distance I want (or think I need). The 4"s have a really good bang for buck light output and ok range. The best thing is they're fairly small, and easily mountable.

As for state laws... just find out what your state laws are. In Canada (or at least BC/Yukon) it's that all aux lighting needs to be wired to your highbeam switch, and the lights are supposed to be covered while on the highway (however that isn't enforced in northern BC or the Yukon).

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HIDx looks the way to go for 4X4. I am not a fan of HIDs in stock Jeep reflectors - you'll blind everyone. No clue what the laws are in your state.

I didn't know Canada required off-road lights to be wired to high beams - that is really strange. Since you have to cover them on highway anyway wonder why they didn't want cab switches. I understand it for on-road because of the dimmer switch.

I agree about the teeth, however, I won't grind mine because I'm concerned that the mount won't hold over time under vibration without the teeth. If it works please post.

I have four 7 inch - ridiculous amount of light but if you're trying not to hit the critters in the wilderness, or offroad trying to brake before hitting rocks and holes - gotta have them. Can't use all four on highway legally of course but when 100 miles from the nearest town - legal becomes less of a concern.

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back home i live in the middle of BFE alabama. 30 min+ of nothing but unpopulated county rds to get to the nearest town. and there are A LOT of deer. the troopers and sheriff dont care as long as you dim the lights.

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HIDx looks the way to go for 4X4. I am not a fan of HIDs in stock Jeep reflectors - you'll blind everyone. No clue what the laws are in your state.

I didn't know Canada required off-road lights to be wired to high beams - that is really strange. Since you have to cover them on highway anyway wonder why they didn't want cab switches. I understand it for on-road because of the dimmer switch.

I agree about the teeth, however, I won't grind mine because I'm concerned that the mount won't hold over time under vibration without the teeth. If it works please post.

I have four 7 inch - ridiculous amount of light but if you're trying not to hit the critters in the wilderness, or offroad trying to brake before hitting rocks and holes - gotta have them. Can't use all four on highway legally of course but when 100 miles from the nearest town - legal becomes less of a concern.
I think they only have to be covered when not in use... and attached to the highbeams for when you are using them, you can kill them quickly. I tried using a bunch of black electrical tape on the teeth from the light, and that worked ok. I figure if I tighten the crap outta the lights after I grind the teeth, it should be okay.
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i want hids, any kind of special ones i should use? do you need anything special for the jk or will any standard hid kit work?

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i want hids, any kind of special ones i should use? do you need anything special for the jk or will any standard hid kit work?
there is ALOT of reading on this site and the internet about converting to HIDs.

several people are running this conversion http://www.vvme.com/bixenon-hid-conv...-44_46_38.html

that is probably what i will end up running then re aim the lights so the beam wont be too bad.

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I want to do this... but keep holding off. With the AUX lighting I have now (see reviews in sig), I see little reason other than to pickup the slack when the AUX hids are off.

Maybe one day...

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i already upgraded my headlights to silverstar ultras a while ago so im just going to do my fog lights until on of my headlights blow out

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i already upgraded my headlights to silverstar ultras a while ago so im just going to do my fog lights until on of my headlights blow out
I switched my headlights and fog lights to the SilverStars 7,000 miles ago and haven't had any issues.

I read elsewhere that the original SilverStars tended to burn easily, but it appears when OSRAM was acquired by Sylvania they took care of the problem.

So far seems that way...(knock on wood)

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I run 5000ks in my headlights and Hellas. I won't have another vehicle without HID headlights for sure..


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