Wiring rigid light bar to ARB style rocker switch - JKowners.com : Jeep Wrangler JK Forum
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 27 Old 08-25-2014, 07:29 PM Thread Starter
JKO Addict!
 
rdlynch2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Albany NY
Age: 34
Posts: 3,175
Feedback: 1 reviews
Wiring rigid light bar to ARB style rocker switch

I plan on using an ARB style rocker switch to turn on my 10 inch E-series. Question, with the rigid wiring harness there are 3 fittings, red, black and blue going to the prewired existing rocker switch.

On the ARB switch base, there are 5 prongs. Anyone have any idea as to which ones I need to connect to in order to power the lights and also have it illuminate only when switch is flipped???

I know this may sound like a stupid question, but still a NEWB when it comes to wiring. Luckily rigid makes it easy

2008 Black 2Dr 6spd D30/44
RK 2.5 X-Factor | Synergy tie rod | 35x12.5 MTRK's | BFH front | Genright rear | Yukon 5.13's | ARB front locker | Warn M8000 w/MasterPull synthetic | Rigid 10'' E-series
rdlynch2 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 27 Old 08-25-2014, 08:01 PM
Gunnery Sergeant USMC (ret)
 
Uncle Sams Misguided Child's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Tucson AZ
Age: 52
Posts: 22,042
Feedback: 8 reviews

Try this. Probably have to hook up the 3 on the left of the pic.


Quote:
Originally Posted by lohchief View Post
If people don't take a stand now,you'll be bitches under their thumbs tomorrow.
Quote:
Originally Posted by StubEXrube View Post
I think too much of a pressure variant between Earth and outer-space... lack of oxygen... something like that.
Uncle Sams Misguided Child is offline  
post #3 of 27 Old 08-26-2014, 04:16 PM Thread Starter
JKO Addict!
 
rdlynch2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Albany NY
Age: 34
Posts: 3,175
Feedback: 1 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Sams Misguided Child View Post
Try this. Probably have to hook up the 3 on the left of the pic.

K thanks. I hate to create a thread for something so simple, but I couldn't find the answer otherwise

2008 Black 2Dr 6spd D30/44
RK 2.5 X-Factor | Synergy tie rod | 35x12.5 MTRK's | BFH front | Genright rear | Yukon 5.13's | ARB front locker | Warn M8000 w/MasterPull synthetic | Rigid 10'' E-series
rdlynch2 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 27 Old 08-26-2014, 05:28 PM
Gunnery Sergeant USMC (ret)
 
Uncle Sams Misguided Child's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Tucson AZ
Age: 52
Posts: 22,042
Feedback: 8 reviews

Don't worry we all have our moments.

Quote:
Originally Posted by lohchief View Post
If people don't take a stand now,you'll be bitches under their thumbs tomorrow.
Quote:
Originally Posted by StubEXrube View Post
I think too much of a pressure variant between Earth and outer-space... lack of oxygen... something like that.
Uncle Sams Misguided Child is offline  
post #5 of 27 Old 09-14-2014, 03:20 PM Thread Starter
JKO Addict!
 
rdlynch2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Albany NY
Age: 34
Posts: 3,175
Feedback: 1 reviews

So I finally got my ARB style rocker switch in the mail (it says LED light bar on it, apparently it had to come from China so took quite a while) anyways, I cut the connections to my pre-wired Rigid switch, crimped some female quick disconnects on and attached em' to the switch terminals on the contura style ARB rocker switch.

Thing is, I am able to either get the switch to light up continuously, or not at all. I would obviously prefer to have the switch illuminate only when switched on. Then turn off when turned off. What do I need to do to make this happen? The rigid harness comes with a prewired relay and 15 amp fuse, so I assumed that this was not going to be an issue to begin with. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks

2008 Black 2Dr 6spd D30/44
RK 2.5 X-Factor | Synergy tie rod | 35x12.5 MTRK's | BFH front | Genright rear | Yukon 5.13's | ARB front locker | Warn M8000 w/MasterPull synthetic | Rigid 10'' E-series
rdlynch2 is offline  
post #6 of 27 Old 09-14-2014, 04:49 PM
Granite Guru
 
14Sport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: The Dirty South
Posts: 420
Feedback: 0 reviews

Not familiar with that particular switch but based on gunny's pic, I would say that pins 8, 2, and 3 replace the connections for the rigid switch. Then tap into a dash light wire for the 6 pin.

Is that not working correctly?

2014 JK Sport, auto, 35x12.5x17, 3.73s.

I jeep therefore I am.
14Sport is offline  
post #7 of 27 Old 09-14-2014, 05:43 PM Thread Starter
JKO Addict!
 
rdlynch2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Albany NY
Age: 34
Posts: 3,175
Feedback: 1 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by 14Sport View Post
Not familiar with that particular switch but based on gunny's pic, I would say that pins 8, 2, and 3 replace the connections for the rigid switch. Then tap into a dash light wire for the 6 pin.

Is that not working correctly?
Im assuming you mean tap into the power supplied to one of the dash lights? Which dash light would work and is the easiet to gain access to?

2008 Black 2Dr 6spd D30/44
RK 2.5 X-Factor | Synergy tie rod | 35x12.5 MTRK's | BFH front | Genright rear | Yukon 5.13's | ARB front locker | Warn M8000 w/MasterPull synthetic | Rigid 10'' E-series

Last edited by rdlynch2; 09-14-2014 at 05:51 PM.
rdlynch2 is offline  
post #8 of 27 Old 09-14-2014, 05:47 PM
Gunnery Sergeant USMC (ret)
 
Uncle Sams Misguided Child's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Tucson AZ
Age: 52
Posts: 22,042
Feedback: 8 reviews

I think tapping into a dash light for pin 6 would just give dimmability to the switch.

Quote:
Originally Posted by lohchief View Post
If people don't take a stand now,you'll be bitches under their thumbs tomorrow.
Quote:
Originally Posted by StubEXrube View Post
I think too much of a pressure variant between Earth and outer-space... lack of oxygen... something like that.
Uncle Sams Misguided Child is offline  
post #9 of 27 Old 09-14-2014, 05:55 PM
Granite Guru
 
14Sport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: The Dirty South
Posts: 420
Feedback: 0 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Sams Misguided Child View Post
I think tapping into a dash light for pin 6 would just give dimmability to the switch.
I'm thinking it's a two led switch, since it has 5 pins, but again, I'm just guessing. Could be a SPDT switch.

OP, is it a 2 light switch? A light on the bottom for dash lights and a light on the top for when it is on?

2014 JK Sport, auto, 35x12.5x17, 3.73s.

I jeep therefore I am.

Last edited by 14Sport; 09-14-2014 at 06:08 PM.
14Sport is offline  
post #10 of 27 Old 09-14-2014, 06:23 PM
Granite Guru
 
14Sport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: The Dirty South
Posts: 420
Feedback: 0 reviews

You should test the switch that came with the accessory. Put your multi-meter on ohms and attach the positive lead to the middle pin. Connect the negative to either the top or bottom pin. Flick the switch and see what the resistance is. If it is zero, then that is a switched terminal. Now move the negative to the other pin, top or bottom depending on what you checked first, and measure the resistance. If it is also zero on that pin then you have a DPST switch. If that is what you have, then you will also need to change the relay.

2014 JK Sport, auto, 35x12.5x17, 3.73s.

I jeep therefore I am.

Last edited by 14Sport; 09-15-2014 at 03:27 AM.
14Sport is offline  
post #11 of 27 Old 09-14-2014, 07:02 PM Thread Starter
JKO Addict!
 
rdlynch2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Albany NY
Age: 34
Posts: 3,175
Feedback: 1 reviews

[IMG][/IMG]
This is it here

I cant be the only one who has used this style switch with a rigid light bar. The guy who installed my ARB compressor managed to have so that the switch only illuminates when flipped on, otherwise, there is no illumination. Trying to contact him now to see exactly what he did.

2008 Black 2Dr 6spd D30/44
RK 2.5 X-Factor | Synergy tie rod | 35x12.5 MTRK's | BFH front | Genright rear | Yukon 5.13's | ARB front locker | Warn M8000 w/MasterPull synthetic | Rigid 10'' E-series

Last edited by rdlynch2; 09-14-2014 at 07:05 PM.
rdlynch2 is offline  
post #12 of 27 Old 09-15-2014, 03:25 AM
Granite Guru
 
14Sport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: The Dirty South
Posts: 420
Feedback: 0 reviews

Ok. If you get stuck let me know. I can help you wire in the new switch but I would need to know what I'm dealing with.

I would need to know the type and pin-out for the switch that came with the accessory and the type and pin-out for the new switch.

Edit: If the rigid switch is a DPST then you will most likely have to join the two outer wires together and attach to pin 3 on the new switch and then run pin 8 to ground.

2014 JK Sport, auto, 35x12.5x17, 3.73s.

I jeep therefore I am.

Last edited by 14Sport; 09-15-2014 at 05:11 AM.
14Sport is offline  
post #13 of 27 Old 09-15-2014, 05:25 AM Thread Starter
JKO Addict!
 
rdlynch2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Albany NY
Age: 34
Posts: 3,175
Feedback: 1 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by 14Sport View Post
Ok. If you get stuck let me know. I can help you wire in the new switch but I would need to know what I'm dealing with.

I would need to know the type and pin-out for the switch that came with the accessory and the type and pin-out for the new switch.

Edit: If the rigid switch is a DPST then you will most likely have to join the two outer wires together and attach to pin 3 on the new switch and then run pin 8 to ground.
Not even sure what DPST. I sent you a PM. Anyways, here are some more photos for people to look at. If anyone knows what wires need to go where to get the switch to light up only when flipped, I would much appreciate it.

This is the rigid switch. 3 pronged. Black, blue, red attach, in order, starting from the top gold prong on the back of the switch





This is the ARB contura style switch. Prongs labeled 2, 3, 5 ,6 and 8.


2008 Black 2Dr 6spd D30/44
RK 2.5 X-Factor | Synergy tie rod | 35x12.5 MTRK's | BFH front | Genright rear | Yukon 5.13's | ARB front locker | Warn M8000 w/MasterPull synthetic | Rigid 10'' E-series

Last edited by rdlynch2; 09-15-2014 at 05:28 AM.
rdlynch2 is offline  
post #14 of 27 Old 09-15-2014, 06:28 AM
JKO Addict!
 
sixty5vdub's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: East of the Mighty Mississippi
Age: 49
Posts: 2,012
Feedback: 0 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Sams Misguided Child View Post
Try this. Probably have to hook up the 3 on the left of the pic.

I am thinking that running a jumper from 7 to 8, and from 3 to 6, will give you what you want. When you flip the LED light on, it should illuminate the rocker switch. And they should both turn off together as well.


AMP

AMP

'07 JKUR, Steel Blue, Spun Main Bearing Mod @ 46k miles
My new engine is a four letter word ..............
sixty5vdub is offline  
post #15 of 27 Old 09-15-2014, 07:46 AM
Granite Guru
 
14Sport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: The Dirty South
Posts: 420
Feedback: 0 reviews

I'm looking for the pinouts right now but not having much luck.

2014 JK Sport, auto, 35x12.5x17, 3.73s.

I jeep therefore I am.
14Sport is offline  
post #16 of 27 Old 09-15-2014, 07:59 AM
Gunnery Sergeant USMC (ret)
 
Uncle Sams Misguided Child's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Tucson AZ
Age: 52
Posts: 22,042
Feedback: 8 reviews

So there are 2 lights in that one switch. You have 2 grounds one is pin 7 one is pin 8. Try the pin 2, pin 3 and pin 8.


Quote:
Originally Posted by lohchief View Post
If people don't take a stand now,you'll be bitches under their thumbs tomorrow.
Quote:
Originally Posted by StubEXrube View Post
I think too much of a pressure variant between Earth and outer-space... lack of oxygen... something like that.

Last edited by Uncle Sams Misguided Child; 09-15-2014 at 08:01 AM.
Uncle Sams Misguided Child is offline  
post #17 of 27 Old 09-15-2014, 08:13 AM
Granite Guru
 
14Sport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: The Dirty South
Posts: 420
Feedback: 0 reviews

Let's start with the rigid switch. If you have a multimeter then you can map the pinouts pretty easily. I am not sure whether the power to the switch is switched or unswitched so for the first test I would put the key in the run position just to be sure.

I am confident that the brass terminal is 12 volt feed to the rocker. Using a multimeter, connect the black lead on the meter to a good ground. Any unpainted bolt going into the tub should be fine. I believe there are several down in the drivers foot well. Connect the red lead from the meter to the wire that connects to the brass terminal on the rocker. Should read 12 volts. Then check each of the other two wires to make sure neither is also a 12 volt feed for the led. Write down your readings for each wire.

Then, set your meter to continuity and connect the red lead from the meter to the bronze tab on the disconnected rocker. With the switch in the on position, connect the black lead from the meter to the middle pin and read the resistance. If it is zero or near zero, then that pin will return to the relay. Do the same with the third pin. If that reads zero, then it also returns to the relay and it's a DPST switch. If it is an open line, showing "OL" or infinity on the meter, then it should be a ground.

Edit: Of course, you could always trace the wires back through the harness to see where they connect.

2014 JK Sport, auto, 35x12.5x17, 3.73s.

I jeep therefore I am.

Last edited by 14Sport; 09-15-2014 at 08:27 AM.
14Sport is offline  
post #18 of 27 Old 09-15-2014, 08:41 AM
Granite Guru
 
14Sport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: The Dirty South
Posts: 420
Feedback: 0 reviews

I did find this image with the wiring but I can't read the pinouts on this crappy work monitor. Is it the image or my monitor that sucks?
Attached Images
 

2014 JK Sport, auto, 35x12.5x17, 3.73s.

I jeep therefore I am.
14Sport is offline  
post #19 of 27 Old 09-15-2014, 08:45 AM Thread Starter
JKO Addict!
 
rdlynch2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Albany NY
Age: 34
Posts: 3,175
Feedback: 1 reviews

what are you trying to figure out about the pins? The picture above posted by USMC, the one from the beginning of this thread, depicted with a yellow background, is correct. The switch has two lights. And no, i do not have a multimeter

2008 Black 2Dr 6spd D30/44
RK 2.5 X-Factor | Synergy tie rod | 35x12.5 MTRK's | BFH front | Genright rear | Yukon 5.13's | ARB front locker | Warn M8000 w/MasterPull synthetic | Rigid 10'' E-series

Last edited by rdlynch2; 09-15-2014 at 08:48 AM.
rdlynch2 is offline  
post #20 of 27 Old 09-15-2014, 08:55 AM
Granite Guru
 
14Sport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: The Dirty South
Posts: 420
Feedback: 0 reviews

The pin numbers you posted are different, so I thought the switch may be different.

If that's the case, then I would try connecting the wire that originally connected to the rigid brass terminal to pin 2 on the arb.

Whichever wire goes back to the relay from the rigid switch should go to pin 3.

Ground pin 8.

Test to make sure the light bar is working properly. The light on the switch should come on when the light bar is on.

It's tough without a multimeter to know what is what and therefore it's risky just hooking up without knowing.

2014 JK Sport, auto, 35x12.5x17, 3.73s.

I jeep therefore I am.

Last edited by 14Sport; 09-15-2014 at 09:01 AM.
14Sport is offline  
post #21 of 27 Old 09-15-2014, 09:03 AM Thread Starter
JKO Addict!
 
rdlynch2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Albany NY
Age: 34
Posts: 3,175
Feedback: 1 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by 14Sport View Post
The pin numbers you posted are different, so I thought the switch may be different.

If that's the case, then I would try connecting the wire that originally connected to the rigid brass terminal to pin 2 on the arb.

Whichever wire goes back to the relay from the rigid switch should go to pin 3.

Ground pin 8.

Test to make sure the light bar is working properly. The light on the switch should come on when the light bar is on.

It's tough without a multimeter to know what is what and therefore it's risky just hooking up without knowing.
That is what I am trying to figure out. The light on the light switch is NOT turning on, the light itself, the rigid led light, IS turning on. I can configure the terminals so that the light, the light on the switch that is, so it illuminates at all times. ie the lights on the switch come on, whenever power is coming from the battery, whether I have the key in the ignition or not, the light on the light comes on. But when I reconfigure it so that it does not illuminate at all times, there is simply no illumination AT ALL when the flip is switched.

2008 Black 2Dr 6spd D30/44
RK 2.5 X-Factor | Synergy tie rod | 35x12.5 MTRK's | BFH front | Genright rear | Yukon 5.13's | ARB front locker | Warn M8000 w/MasterPull synthetic | Rigid 10'' E-series
rdlynch2 is offline  
post #22 of 27 Old 09-15-2014, 09:21 AM
Gunnery Sergeant USMC (ret)
 
Uncle Sams Misguided Child's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Tucson AZ
Age: 52
Posts: 22,042
Feedback: 8 reviews

So you have it wired straight to the battery?

If you want I have a daystar switch with just 3 prongs on the back. I will send it to you for free.

Quote:
Originally Posted by lohchief View Post
If people don't take a stand now,you'll be bitches under their thumbs tomorrow.
Quote:
Originally Posted by StubEXrube View Post
I think too much of a pressure variant between Earth and outer-space... lack of oxygen... something like that.
Uncle Sams Misguided Child is offline  
post #23 of 27 Old 09-15-2014, 09:22 AM
Granite Guru
 
14Sport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: The Dirty South
Posts: 420
Feedback: 0 reviews

Sounds like you may have pin 6 connected to unswitched power. You should find and tap into any positive lead to any of the dash lights for pin 6.

If pin 6 is feeding both leds, then they will only come on when power is fed to pin 6, not when the switch is activated.

On the newer Contura switches, pin 6 feeds one led and the power circuit to the relay feeds the other. Sounds like it's time for an upgrade.

2014 JK Sport, auto, 35x12.5x17, 3.73s.

I jeep therefore I am.

Last edited by 14Sport; 09-15-2014 at 09:40 AM.
14Sport is offline  
post #24 of 27 Old 09-16-2014, 09:55 AM
Wheeler
 
naterenfo1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Bismarck ND
Posts: 15
Garage
Feedback: 0 reviews

Well, mine works! I have the black wire (ground) going to pin 8, it is also jumpered over to pin 7. I have the red wire (12v Power) going to pin 2. I have the blue wire (switched power to the light bar) going to pin 3. I then have a wire that sends positive voltage ONLY when the headlights are turned on, to pin 6.

When the switch is off, nothing lights up. When the headlights are turned on, the small LED on the OFF position lights up. When the switch is turned on, The light bar turns on, and the large LED indicator on the ON side of the switch lights up. I am referencing "Uncle Sams Misguided Child"s post #16 for the pinouts.

If you DO NOT want the small indicator light to illuminate in the OFF position with the headlights on, simply do not use a ground jumper wire to pin 7, and don't use a power circuit to pin 6.

If you wire yours up just like I have mine, and it still doesn't work, I would suspect a bad LED in the switch body. I have replaced quite a few of these contura style switches at work that had bad LEDs.

Hope this helps!
-Nate

2008 JKU Rubicon
Engine: Hypertech Programmer, Airaid cold air intake, throttle body spacer
Suspension: Teraflex 4.5" long arm lift, Ruffstuff Diff covers, Hydro assist, Hawk brakes, Gusseted, trussed, sleeved, Bilstein shocks, outer axle seals, Tom woods driveshafts, Dynatrac ball joints, Ruffstuff Tie rod.
Body:Teraflex F/R bumpers, Warn 9.5Ti, Viking synthetic rope, Rigid D2s, Rigid 12" spot, Trektop NX, Bushwacker flares.
Tires: 37" Goodyear Wrangler MTR Kevlars.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
naterenfo1 is offline  
post #25 of 27 Old 09-16-2014, 01:49 PM
Granite Guru
 
14Sport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: The Dirty South
Posts: 420
Feedback: 0 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by naterenfo1 View Post
Well, mine works! I have the black wire (ground) going to pin 8, it is also jumpered over to pin 7. I have the red wire (12v Power) going to pin 2. I have the blue wire (switched power to the light bar) going to pin 3. I then have a wire that sends positive voltage ONLY when the headlights are turned on, to pin 6.

When the switch is off, nothing lights up. When the headlights are turned on, the small LED on the OFF position lights up. When the switch is turned on, The light bar turns on, and the large LED indicator on the ON side of the switch lights up. I am referencing "Uncle Sams Misguided Child"s post #16 for the pinouts.

If you DO NOT want the small indicator light to illuminate in the OFF position with the headlights on, simply do not use a ground jumper wire to pin 7, and don't use a power circuit to pin 6.

If you wire yours up just like I have mine, and it still doesn't work, I would suspect a bad LED in the switch body. I have replaced quite a few of these contura style switches at work that had bad LEDs.

Hope this helps!
-Nate
Do you have that same switch or one of the newer ones?

2014 JK Sport, auto, 35x12.5x17, 3.73s.

I jeep therefore I am.
14Sport is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the JKowners.com : Jeep Wrangler JK Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome