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post #1 of 18 Old 12-04-2009, 02:02 PM Thread Starter
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How to disable the traction control?

Not much of a technical question but...

My friend would like to disable the traction control on his '09 so he can... ummm... have some "fun" in the snow.

Is there a specific fuse that you can pop out to accomplish this?
Or something similarly easy?
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post #2 of 18 Old 12-04-2009, 02:56 PM
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Procedure To Turn ON (or OFF) The Permanent ESP Disable Feature:
a. Verify that the automatic transmission selector is in the “Park” position, and that a
manual transmission is in neutral gear.
b. Start the vehicle engine and wait approximately five (5) seconds for the system bulb
check to complete.
c. Shift the transfer case into the 4H range position. Firmly set parking brake.
d. Turn the steering wheel until it is centered and the wheels are pointed straight
ahead.
e. Turn the steering wheel one-half (˝) turn to the right (clockwise). HOLD steering
wheel in this position.
f. Press and hold the “ESP OFF” button for 7 seconds. Release the “ESP OFF” button
right after 7 seconds. Wait for chime.
g. Turn the steering wheel back to center, then turn the steering wheel one-half (˝)
turn to the left (counterclockwise). HOLD the steering wheel in this position.
h. Press and hold the “ESP OFF” button
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I've read this before a couple years ago. I read different feedback on that complicated step-by-step procedure. I also found another thread that identifed a wire running through the console... cut it, installed a NC switch, and when I want to slide it around in the snow I flip the switch opening the circuit. Doing so disables the system, but... other warning lights illuminate which may you feel uneasy. Never had a problem. Once the the switch is reset to close the circuit, the ignition shut off and restarted... all is reset.

Just a shame I don't see too much snow here in northern Texas. Snowed earlier this week, but didn't stick to the ground.
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I think it depends also what year JK. The '07 is not nearly as reasonable on disabling the ESP as the later years. If you want to dig into the console to do the wire disable, let me know and I'll walk you through it.

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I think it depends also what year JK. The '07 is not nearly as reasonable on disabling the ESP as the later years. If you want to dig into the console to do the wire disable, let me know and I'll walk you through it.
'07's need to be flashed with an update before the above procedure will work. I had mine done for free at the dealer, turned it off and never looked back.
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'07's need to be flashed with an update before the above procedure will work. I had mine done for free at the dealer, turned it off and never looked back.
So you don't have to reset it every time you start the Jeep? Also what lights go on the dash with it turned off?

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how do you turn this off permanently, everytime i shut down my jeep and restart it, i have to go through the procedure again
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your not doing the hokey pokey at the end ,thats why.

i have no idea i tried to do it to my 07 (no flash from dealer) but it didnt work

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your not doing the hokey pokey at the end ,thats why.

i have no idea i tried to do it to my 07 (no flash from dealer) but it didnt work
If you have never flashed your 07 it won't work.

And the procedure I posted is a permanent turn off until you repeat the procedure to turn it back on.

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I'm a little lost. I thought that when I pressed the ESP button it turned it off and then when I press it again it turns it back on.
Do you only have to run through this procedure when you want it off permanently?
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I'm a little lost. I thought that when I pressed the ESP button it turned it off and then when I press it again it turns it back on.
Do you only have to run through this procedure when you want it off permanently?
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Ummm, not true. the off button mode only works up until about 20-30 mph, then it will kick back in even if the light is on (telling you its off)

the most comprehensive way to turn off big brother is to remove the fuses that govern the traction control and ABS.

I pulled mine the first day and have been government free ever since. it is also much safer off road, the last thing you want is to nail the brakes only to have the system start to modulate and keep going rather than slide a bit and stop.

15 years of off road racing, ABS sucks in the dirt.
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My 'switched' ESP on my automatic was done by inserting a switch in the circuit leading to one of its sensors in the center console. I believe it is a grey wire with a light purple pin-stripe, but I would have to check. I believe I got to the thread through pirate4x4 which to me to another forum thread.

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Ummm, not true. the off button mode only works up until about 20-30 mph, then it will kick back in even if the light is on (telling you its off)

the most comprehensive way to turn off big brother is to remove the fuses that govern the traction control and ABS.

I pulled mine the first day and have been government free ever since. it is also much safer off road, the last thing you want is to nail the brakes only to have the system start to modulate and keep going rather than slide a bit and stop.

15 years of off road racing, ABS sucks in the dirt.

this part of his post is correct tho right? or even if you do the perma turn off it will still kick back on? i have completely disabled mine before by using the steps provided above and have never experienced it turning back on? and im pretty sure ive had it above 20-30?


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Just a thought. You might want to read the fine print of your insurance policy about disabling safety features.

They usually overlook mods, but intentionally and permanently disabling a factory safety feature is another thing. They look look for any way they can not to pay you.

If you lose control and wreck it is hard to prove big tires or a bumper caused it. Much easier to prove no ABS, ESP etc at the time of the accident.

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Just a thought. You might want to read the fine print of your insurance policy about disabling safety features.

They usually overlook mods, but intentionally and permanently disabling a factory safety feature is another thing. They look look for any way they can not to pay you.

If you lose control and wreck it is hard to prove big tires or a bumper caused it. Much easier to prove no ABS, ESP etc at the time of the accident.
Good point. I wonder how they would view my switch. Need a black box.

Funny, my local Jeep dealer had no problem NOT replacing my failed A/T based on 'big' tires and... the 4" lift!

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I think the big insurance issue is that they give you certain specific discounts based on the safety features of the Jeep. So you breach the insurance contract by disabling those features.

Contracts typically don't say anything about other mods.

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