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Problems wiring winch

Ok so not sure if its just the friday retardedness kicking in or what. But I'm having trouble with my Ramsey Rep-8000 winch.
I know it should be pretty simple, red wire from solenoid to pos. battery terminal, black to the negative. But when I have 1 wire connected and go to hook up the other one on battery it sparks like its shorting, damn near welding itself to the terminal.

I dont see any bare spots on either wire where they could be grounding out or anything.

Would a bad solenoid cause this? Or am I overlooking something stupid.

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Ok so not sure if its just the friday retardedness kicking in or what. But I'm having trouble with my Ramsey Rep-8000 winch.
I know it should be pretty simple, red wire from solenoid to pos. battery terminal, black to the negative. But when I have 1 wire connected and go to hook up the other one on battery it sparks like its shorting, damn near welding itself to the terminal.

I dont see any bare spots on either wire where they could be grounding out or anything.

Would a bad solenoid cause this? Or am I overlooking something stupid.

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If it is a simple spark, that would be normal as it's completing the circuit when you connect the negative end to the battery.

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No its not just a simple spark. It actually gets the cable hot, and leaves a burn mark on the terminal.
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With both wires off the battery what happens when you attach the pos+ wire to the pos+ on the battery, leaving the neg- off and not touching the body or frame? Still leaving the neg- off and not touching the body or frame touch the pos+ wire to the neg- post on the battery what happens? I'm wondering if the wires could have been put on wrong inside the solenoid pack of the winch. I dont know just thinking of possible causes.


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With both wires off the battery what happens when you attach the pos+ wire to the pos+ on the battery, leaving the neg- off and not touching the body or frame? Still leaving the neg- off and not touching the body or frame touch the pos+ wire to the neg- post on the battery what happens? I'm wondering if the wires could have been put on wrong inside the solenoid pack of the winch. I dont know just thinking of possible causes.
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Does the solenoid click when you hook up the positive?

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One cause could be that when running the wires to the battery through the body, you nicked the positive cable and the wire is touching the body causing a short. One way to check is run a cable from the solenoid to the positive on battery without it touching the vehicle. If that works then viola , you discovered the problem. This has happened to me before.


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it might be a possibilty that somethings shorted out in soilinod area, do yuo have a voltmeter or test light?

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Yup, that's definitely a short. There is something wrong, you are not just suffering from a case of the "fridays".

There's been some good advice so far on likely problems. A multimeter is probably your friend right now.
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try have the winch in gear when you connect it (be VERY carefull) maybe one is stuck on, that would be enough draw to make it spark, if you do this and thats wats wrong the winch will move and can be dangerous

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Yeah I've been playing with a test light on it and both solenoids and the base are "hot"... so something is shorted inside the solenoid. I'm figuring on just getting a couple of new ones.

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im not familiar with that winch are the solinoids external like the warn m8000? if so take the solinoid box apart and check it out, maybe a pinched/cut wire somewhere. the base (or any exposed metal part) should not show 12v at them

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Has this problem been resolved? Reason I ask, I was having similar trouble, and a google search brought me to this thread. My 2nd-hand REP 8000 would overheat/short the hot wire on power-in. I used this wiring diagram to properly wire it, but was still having the same problem. I checked the motor connectors and noticed a ground condition on the F2 lug on the motor. After disassembling the motor I saw the lug had twisted slightly from tightening the connector, and was grounding out against the inside of the motor case. I'm 99% certain this could be happening to yours, maybe on the positive (+) post of the winch motor. To fix it I simply twisted it back where it needed to be, and held it inside the motor case with a mini pry bar while tightening the 9/16" nut that holds the lug in place. This will be cheaper than buying new continuous duty solenoids, I priced them at $75 each at NAPA before dedicating myself to finding out what else the problem could be. If it is already fixed, maybe this bit of info can help someone else. Happy 'wheeling!
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