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low speed vs high speed

There is a guy here local that is selling a MYgig 20G REN at a pretty decent price. It came out of his 09 Challenger. He said it is a low speed pull. He said he is almost certain it will not work in my 09 Wrangler because I need high speed ???? Can someone explain a little about the diff ?? I thought with his being an 09 also they would be the same. He told me its in storage and if I wanted he would dig it out and give me the numbers off of it but was almost 100% sure it will not work... Any help appreciated
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Pull? I have no idea what he's talking about, and it sounds like he doesn't either. Also, last time I looked, '09 MyGig's are 30 gig. Sounds like the dude's full of some poo, but that may just be me Mark W.

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Dont know much about them at all but I think he means buss ????
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Besides my own logic (how would CANBUS speed effect radio function??), I checked with my parts and service managers- they say there's no reason it wouldn't work. Give it a shot, if it's a good deal- they're a pretty cool system, and you can hack them Mark W.

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I know people on here have the answer.

I am pretty sure the JK uses the high speed, which I believe is the RER (with nav) and REN (without nav) .



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Besides my own logic (how would CANBUS speed effect radio function??), I checked with my parts and service managers- they say there's no reason it wouldn't work. Give it a shot, if it's a good deal- they're a pretty cool system, and you can hack them Mark W.
They are not interchangeable.

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Hmm- time to go slap some "professionals" Mark W.

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The wrangler use HIGH SPEED PULL or BUS as some call it.

So you cannot take a low speed and use it and vice versa. I believe all JK's use High Speed Pull/Bus.. At least I havent found one that hasnt


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Im wondering if his is even low speed. What is it that decides? I am not for sure at all but I was kinda leaning towards year ??? Like maybe 07's where low speed. This is an REN with 20GB non nav for $250 ???? local
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HELP

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Also, last time I looked, '09 MyGig's are 30 gig.
30 gig is what it says but in actuality they are all different.
Some are only 18 some are 23.
I don't think a real 30 is available yet.
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Found this site with a lil info but still not exactly what im lookin fot http://www.wkjeeps.com/wk_nav_2.htm#ABOUT

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The challenger is low speed, so it will not work in the wrangler.

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Doh thats what i was affraid of

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The Wrangler (07-09)can only use the high speed (RER). Your buddies won't work. For advice from someone who knows what he's talking about call Steve at Harman Becker. 248-994-2794. OR visit MOFV.Com., the Unofficial Official MyGiig site on the web. Cram full of good guy nerds that can help with any problem. good luck.

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Hey rubicajun, the REN one confuses me because I've seen it listed on ebay so many times as high speed. Thanks.

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I copied this from the mofv.com site's FAQ's. Hope this helps.The REN, as stated below is the non-nav us model w/o VR or Uconnect. It is high speed..

The radio types are as follows:
RER is the US Navigation radio w/internal VR and U-Connect
REW is the European Navigation Radio w/internal VR and U-Connect (VR & UConnect not equipped in MY07 European vehicles)
REP is the Rest of the World Navigation Radio w/internal VR and U-Connect
REN is the US non-Navigation w/o internal VR or UConnect
REZ is the European non-Navigation Radio w/o internal VR or UConnect
REU is a MyGIG variant for the Chrysler Journey vehicle only. It has an external display and an internal 6 disc DVD changer. There is no touch screen, rather a joy stick for user HMI.
Note: Wranglers are currently only available with UConnect or Voice Recognition disabled, because there is a degraded performance concern in the Wrangler environment.


Q: How does the MyGIG radio “talk” to the vehicle?
A: Through a special serial digital bus called a CAN bus. CAN stands for Controller Area Network and it allows electronic devices in your car to communicate with other devices a lot like how computers can communicate with other computers on a network. It controls many of the items in your car such as door locks, making the MyGIG radio stop playing video in drive (I hate that one so I had to mention it), your ECU, transmission, basically everything that has a sensor, switch, or simple device that can offer the simplest of information like car seat positions is connected to it.. You should have 2 CAN-Bus wires running to your radio (Pins #2 (White) and #13 (White/Orange) on the large grey radio plug). If you are installing a new radio or just happen to be in your dashboard clipping wires because you are drunk, remember NOT to cut the CAN-Bus wires, pass power into them, ground them, or hook up speaker wires to them. You will likely end up with an unusable car let alone radio.


Q: Can I replace my current radio with a MyGIG radio?
A: Maybe. MyGIG upgrades are only available on certain 2007+ vehicles and backward compatibility can change over time. Also, the work required will depend on the type of MyGIG upgrade, and the options already installed in the vehicle. In addition, Wranglers currently do not support U-Connect or VR. Also note that Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep Vehicles use two different vehicle CAN bus speeds and therefore the radio part number must match the vehicle or the radio will not operate.
The CAN speeds for each specific model are listed below:
Sebring, Avenger, 300C, Charger, Magnum, Durango, Aspen, Grand Cherokee, Dakota, Commander – Low Speed
Wrangler, Liberty, Nitro, Grand Caravan, Town & Country – High Speed

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The REN, as stated below is the non-nav us model w/o VR or Uconnect. It is high speed..
The guy that has one for sale is prol a lil confused. He says its an REN that came out of his 09 Challenger and its low speed. ???? From all I read Challengers are low speed so his must not be an REN ????

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So I was right originally...

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So I was right originally...
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The guy that has one for sale is prol a lil confused. He says its an REN that came out of his 09 Challenger and its low speed. ???? From all I read Challengers are low speed so his must not be an REN ????
All of the listed stereos are/were available for both LOW SPEED or HIGH SPEED CANBUS vehicles. They are different even IF they carry the same model name. You must check the exact model number to determine if it is low speed or high speed. I have both the low speed 2013 Dodge Challenger and the high speed 2009 KK Liberty Limited. Both came with 730N (RER) MyGig stereos. They are NOT interchangeable, because they were made for different speed CANBUS'es. However I did swap both for JVC KW-HDT810 Bluetooth/NAV DVD head units with PAC C2R-CHY4 CANBUS adapters.
If you intend to replace the factory stereo a CANBUS adapter is REQUIRED on all 2004 and newer Chrysler products.
If you want to UNLOCK all of the hidden features included with the RER / REN / RHB / RBZ / RHR stereo units you need to get the Coastal Tech Lockpick. This is a computer module which gets installed between the CANBUS and the factory stereo. All of the listed models Low Speed and High Speed have multiple hidden features that Chrysler did not enable by default.
Lastly the Lockpick will not allow you to install the wrong speed CANBUS stereo in you vehicle.
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