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I know the soft tops leak, but I think mines worse than is acceptable. If I built someone a house and said, sorry about the leaks, theres nothing I could do about it, I'd have a lawsuit on my hands so fast! anyone have any suggestions for closing this leak up? seems to be coming in from the plastic door surrounds, towards the front. There's a couple other smaller spots on the passenger side, but nothing compared to what I get on the drivers. I run no top and no doors 90% of the time, but for the times that we get rain, it'd be nice to have a dry seat.
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holy chit batman!!! thats what mine looked like when i forgot to clip the top in on top of the door...

not trying to call you out or anything, but have you checked that you have everything buttoned up correctly? im sure you have several times, but i figured id start with the obvious lol, simply because i have forgotten to do this a time or two...

then id see what some weather stripping would do for you... a few strips in the right spot and it should help you out quite a bit...

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holy chit batman!!! thats what mine looked like when i forgot to clip the top in on top of the door...

not trying to call you out or anything, but have you checked that you have everything buttoned up correctly? im sure you have several times, but i figured id start with the obvious lol, simply because i have forgotten to do this a time or two...

then id see what some weather stripping would do for you... a few strips in the right spot and it should help you out quite a bit...
yeah, that was the first thing i checked. I'll get some more pics of how its sitting now since its not wet and maybe that'll help solve the riddle. This isnt the first time it's leaked like this. any hard rain and thats what I end up with as well as a soaked seat and pretty much ruined carpet

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Mine leaks the same there. I've tried a few different things without any luck.
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Looks like a stealership trip to me.

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Seeing chit like that make me glad I chucked my JK to the curb before the warranty was up.

Thankfully our other JK has the lifetime wrap on it so IF that ever occurs Jeep pays for it.

Good luck and hopefully that gets taken care of for you.

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do a search for "jeep jk leak pdf" and there is a 144 page very detailed repair procedure for softops, hartops, and half doors ect. The first page is a troubleshooting flowchart, all the photos are in color and I just finished reading over it before I found this thread, there were even some that I knew nothing about. It will definately help you to find the leak ant to fix it. I searched under google and it was one of the first couple of links that opened it right up.

http://www.jeep-club.net/graphics/ma..._Leaks_All.pdf

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Looks like a stealership trip to me.
I bought my JK used from carmax and even paid for an extended warranty. When I told them about the leak, they said sorry and they didn't cover it. Considering they did fix a bunch of stuff I messed up when I broke a driveshaft, I didnt push the issue. However, the leak has gotten progressively worse.

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do a search for "jeep jk leak pdf" and there is a 144 page very detailed repair procedure for softops, hartops, and half doors ect. The first page is a troubleshooting flowchart, all the photos are in color and I just finished reading over it before I found this thread, there were even some that I knew nothing about. It will definately help you to find the leak ant to fix it. I searched under google and it was one of the first couple of links that opened it right up.

http://www.jeep-club.net/graphics/ma..._Leaks_All.pdf

This really needs to be copy and pasted to a sticky in the write ups if it isn't already.
good find, I'll definitely be checking that out

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I've come to the conclusion my soft top will never seal water or air. It's just a fact. Hardly did from day one. My water leak is NOTHING like that, couple drips on the door handle socket. Certainly look into the posted threads/links on it.

The corners of my soft top I cannot get to seal for the life of me. I've found some pretty hellaciouis BMW noises in the past, but I cannot get this thing to seal without just starting to throw parts at it. Hardtop...someday.

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I had the same issue, and about the same amount of water, here is what I did:

Step 1, on the door surround you will see that A pillar rubber TSB fix ( http://media.photobucket.com/image/j...0211091136.jpg ) has a spongy foam rubber weather strip sticking out from under it. I removed that completely so that water doesn't wick in there.

Step 2, on the windshield seal I made sure I could not pull it apart from the windshield frame at all. I noticed that I could pull it away there, and so I bought a 4 dollar tube of black silicone sealant from pep boys. I unclamped the roof so that I could make sure to get the silicone in as best I could. Next cleaned the metal that the seal should have been attached to and then applied the sealant and clamped down the roof to apply pressure.

Step 3, I loosened the torque screws that hold the door striker in place. Once it was loose enough to move and loosely stay in place (but not so loose that it just flops around) I closed the door as tight as I could. Don't let go of the door when it latches, Instead, once you have the door closed as tight as you can you need to push the button on the door handle and open the door. Once again, if you let go of the door or relieve any pressure this will not work. Once you have done this, your door striker should be in further for a much tighter seal.

The combo of all 3 of those steps completely solved my problem. I went from water soaking my seat during a light rain, to not a single drip all spring.

I hope that helps. If you need me to be clearer just PM me. I went to the dealership 5 times over this issue. Seriously, 5 times (anywhere from 2-12 day stays). I ended up spending 2 days of trial and error and came up with that fix.

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then id see what some weather stripping would do for you... a few strips in the right spot and it should help you out quite a bit...
It depends on the door seal, after a while they get formed to their shape and applying more weather stripping diverts the water in through different channels. I tried every available weather stripping and they all made the issue worse. Heck, I still have 3 rolls of the stuff sitting in my garage. If the door steal is still new and soft you can use weather stripping to help, but as I learned, even new seals didn't fix my problem.

I will say however that the 2011 wranglers have a much better foam rubber that they use as opposed to the sponge crap.
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i had the same problem with my old top...not to mention having a conversasion with a passenger went to a trektop swapped the header channel...dry nd quiet...once n awhile during a really hard rain id get drip or two but thats it...


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I forgot to add something, you have a 2007 just as I do. That means most likely you still have the original front winshield/header seal. I replaced mine with the newer one they sell now, the rubber is 2 times as thick and has water channels on it. Also you most likely have the plastic header on your soft top. I switched mine out with the aluminum/steel one that have been using since 2009.

Those probably won't solve your problem due to where you are leaking at, but the new seal does divert water away from your A pillar. It also prevents that steam of water from pouring into your floor when you open the door.

The steal header just forms to the roof and prevents wind noise and creates a better seal. My plastic header was cracked in half causing a loud whistle and a poor seal.

Roughly 220 bucks and about 3 hours of my labor.
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The steal header just forms to the roof and prevents wind noise and creates a better seal.

x2! I installed the steel replacement header and it rocks compared to the crap plastic factory one on my 2008...but I didn't do the new rubber header seal to go with it...that may be next!

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My old 07 soft top leaked like this all the time I must have had it a the dealership 7-10 times, they always said that they could never get it to leak with a water hose they said it must happen when I would open my door and the water would just run in. will, I traded that one in for my 2010 and it may leak once and a while, but nothing like it used to. I hope you get it fixed.


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I've got a 2010 and I've never had a leak. People (even at the dealership) are flabbergasted when I say that.

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They obviously made some changes from 2007 to 2009. Mine is very dry during even the hardest rains. My hardtop pieces up front leaked once, but it was because they weren't seated right.

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I think this thing is finally coming together. Still Needed: drive shafts, frame mount rails...then done son! For a while...
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I just heard of a guy attempting to get a $10k settlement outta jeep for his leaky soft top. Apparently the dealer tried fixing it ten separate times and never made any improvement. So he is requesting a settlement, if that fails i guess he proceeds to sue? Seems a little absurd to me 10k for a leak. It jus came up in conversation with someone in the legal field so I don't know the details.

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I guess if it were to take out all the electronics ect..and he could show that he took measures to protect his investment but was not able to due to repairs...yes I could see a case there... Tho I would pry for a sympathetic judge!


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I have heard of a couple people getting whole new soft tops over this issue, and I mean im sure Jeep would end up getting 2000+ for that installed. 10,000 is a pipe dream, my guess is he hoped for a counter offer of a couple grand or a new roof, or both.
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