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This is why you should seal the 'black hole' in front of the dash

I lost a 7mm 1/4" socket to the black hole a few weeks ago. It couldn't go peacefully and fell onto the cast aluminum dash frame (socket + cast aluminum + bumps) = annoying! Luckily even after all this removed it was a shot in the dark to even find it. The aluminum dash frame has tons of little holes and pockets for it to fall into. I was able to get it with the 'bendy' magnet...needless to say, I'm going to make a seal of some sort tomorrow!






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That really sucks. So far I have only lost the stupid little spiky clip thing for the top dash panel in the black hole. My friend BBirish used pipe insulation. Post up what you end up doing.
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That really sucks. So far I have only lost the stupid little spiky clip thing for the top dash panel in the black hole. My friend BBirish used pipe insulation. Post up what you end up doing.
I was thinking of something similar. I didn't think it was any big deal, but a small, round, hardened steel object can be a bitch against cast aluminum!

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Yeah, I lost one too. It rattled for a couple of miles and seems to have gotten stuck somewhere cause I don't hear it anymore.

I'd buy a whole new socket set before I took apart my dash like THAT!

But I am a lazy bastard anyway...

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A length of 3/4 or 5/8ths inch black pipe insulation does the trick. Split it down the seam and roll it into the cavern, cut to length. Less than 2 bucks and doesn't look too bad.

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Added to the to-do list. Nice bendy magnet Goody

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Yeah, I lost one too. It rattled for a couple of miles and seems to have gotten stuck somewhere cause I don't hear it anymore.

I'd buy a whole new socket set before I took apart my dash like THAT!

But I am a lazy bastard anyway...
I couldn't care about the socket, just made an annoying noise (more-so annoying because it was self-introduced). Being a BMW tech for a living, it's natural to just start taking shit apart lol

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If you think the sockets noisy, try coins (lots of them) in the defroster duct.

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How waterproof does the inside of the dash look? I had mud and trail dust all over my dash today and considered housing down the dash. I had already pulled the plugs and hosed down every thing else.

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I couldn't care about the socket, just made an annoying noise (more-so annoying because it was self-introduced). Being a BMW tech for a living, it's natural to just start taking shit apart lol
If mine were rattlin I'd do the same thing...

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I couldn't care about the socket, just made an annoying noise (more-so annoying because it was self-introduced). Being a BMW tech for a living, it's natural to just start taking shit apart lol
LOL, with my luck I would find the socket, but the dash wouldn't go back together right and would start making a worse noise..

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If I were to want to prevent such a nightmare, where is this black hole you speak of? My rig is brand-spankin' new and I have lotsa mods coming...

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Ok, first I immediately went outside to look for this black hole so thanks for the heads up.

Secondly, I couldn't help notice the In n Out cup in your cup holder and being a former Californian I am totally jonesing for some. It's been a damn long time for me and there is not a one in Florida.
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If I were to want to prevent such a nightmare, where is this black hole you speak of? My rig is brand-spankin' new and I have lotsa mods coming...
its the 1" gaping hole between the dash and the windshield.

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Ok, first I immediately went outside to look for this black hole so thanks for the heads up.

Secondly, I couldn't help notice the In n Out cup in your cup holder and being a former Californian I am totally jonesing for some. It's been a damn long time for me and there is not a one in Florida.
Yep, I go by there once a week or so. We're moving to Dallas soon, I'm going to miss my In-N-Out and Tommy's! Supposedly an In-N-Out is going to a suburb of Dallas?

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I just saw somewhere where somebody had a black rubber piece that had a little channel that "snapped" (??) onto the metal seam across that gap. Ill see if I can find it and the pic

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Would it have been easier to fold the windsheld down tha ripping out the dash?
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Would it have been easier to fold the windsheld down tha ripping out the dash?
the windshield isn't up...

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How waterproof does the inside of the dash look? I had mud and trail dust all over my dash today and considered housing down the dash. I had already pulled the plugs and hosed down every thing else.
I'd say it's pretty "waterproof"....

I've been sumerged up to the shifter.... so that's one indication.

When I wash my JK i hose the entire dash.... but I do it very fast to not drown it in water....

the ONLY problem I had was that my factory stereo wouldn't work for a day or two until it dried out. So it you want to do a thorough cleaning there... I would recommend taking the factory stereo out....

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LOL, with my luck I would find the socket, but the dash wouldn't go back together right and would start making a worse noise..
Same here, I feel like I fix one problem and create two more sometimes.
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you didnt happen to find a styrofoam cooler in there did you?? ones been shaking around my dash and some others for quite a while now.

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A length of 3/4 or 5/8ths inch black pipe insulation does the trick. Split it down the seam and roll it into the cavern, cut to length. Less than 2 bucks and doesn't look too bad.

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Most excellent idea, long overdue mod on mine.
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Using that pipe insullation is a good idea. I'm going to have to try it. Rattles bug the shit out of me...I could see myself pulling the dash apart too.

Yes, In N Out is suppose to come to Dallas. Hope it's as good as I remember (been 10 years since I had it).
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Definitely use the pipe insulation. It took five minutes to install, if that, and you don't even notice it because it matches the dash perfectly. It looks almost like half of a rollbar is sticking out of your dash. I read about so many people losing shit and then I nearly lost my phone so I made the trip to Lowe's. Best mod to date.

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Supposedly an In-N-Out is going to a suburb of Dallas?
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Yes, In N Out is suppose to come to Dallas. Hope it's as good as I remember (been 10 years since I had it).

This is true. In-N-Out in Garland, TX
Chuck, we'll have to see about moving one of the monthly M&Gs when it's done.

I'm going to have to do that pipe insulation too. Good idea.

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