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post #1 of 26 Old 02-09-2010, 01:23 PM Thread Starter
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Another clutch bites the dust

I just heard back from my dealer that I need to replace the clutch, slave cylinder, throw out bearing, some plate, etc. Just wonderful. I have 13,000 miles on it, and shockingly enough they don't want to cover it under 12,000 mile warranty.

The thing is, at 11,703 miles, I complained to the same dealer that I was having issued with the clutch, and it popping out of first gear. The tech told me there was nothing wrong with it, and it happens from time to time.

Sure it does.

So now I am staring at a $1300 bill to replace everything.

As suggested by JerzeyJeep, and Mr. T, I called Chrysler Corporate and opened a claim. I should hear back tomorrow about a resolution. Hopefully, they will offer "goodwill assistance" and cover the clutch. If not, I will be taking the Jeep off the lot, and bringing it to a shop close to me to have the clutch replaced. The shop quoted about $800 to replace everything with factory parts. Hey, I just saved enough to buy a bumper, or food since I don't have a job.

I figure if I do end up having to pay for it, I will upgrade the clutch to a Spec clutch...Jeremy at Spec said I should go for either the 2+ or 3+, being that this is my DD. While I haven't taken the Jeep off road here in Missouri yet, I am told that it is mostly rocks and mud, which is different than the sand and water in Jersey.

Any thoughts as to the 2+ or 3+. Should I be looking at a different manufacturer?

Thanks for any advice.
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I feel your pain. I have had my clutch out twice in 29000 miles. Once for the throw out bearing, then it started a new noise, so they pulled it again and replaced the plate. It was all under warranty.
So far, Chrysler Customer Service has been helpful with my MYGIG issues although it is still not completely resolved.
If my clutch goes again, I will definitely be looking for a aftermarket unit, so I am interested to see how this turns out for you. Good Luck!

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I just heard back from my dealer that I need to replace the clutch, slave cylinder, throw out bearing, some plate, etc. Just wonderful. I have 13,000 miles on it, and shockingly enough they don't want to cover it under 12,000 mile warranty.

The thing is, at 11,703 miles, I complained to the same dealer that I was having issued with the clutch, and it popping out of first gear. The tech told me there was nothing wrong with it, and it happens from time to time.

Sure it does.

So now I am staring at a $1300 bill to replace everything.

As suggested by JerzeyJeep, and Mr. T, I called Chrysler Corporate and opened a claim. I should hear back tomorrow about a resolution. Hopefully, they will offer "goodwill assistance" and cover the clutch. If not, I will be taking the Jeep off the lot, and bringing it to a shop close to me to have the clutch replaced. The shop quoted about $800 to replace everything with factory parts. Hey, I just saved enough to buy a bumper, or food since I don't have a job.

I figure if I do end up having to pay for it, I will upgrade the clutch to a Spec clutch...Jeremy at Spec said I should go for either the 2+ or 3+, being that this is my DD. While I haven't taken the Jeep off road here in Missouri yet, I am told that it is mostly rocks and mud, which is different than the sand and water in Jersey.

Any thoughts as to the 2+ or 3+. Should I be looking at a different manufacturer?

Thanks for any advice.
The trans does like to pop out of first on occasion, there are several threads about it.
Sucks about the clutch though, mine has 60,000 on it and is doing alright.

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Wow Larry, sounds like you had happen exactly what happened to me... given the parts list. Sorry to hear it, and good luck with the Corporate folks.

I was just pissed that my clutch only lasted me 37K. On my last car, it was 107K on the original before it started slipping. I only wish that I had a spec installed when it blew. I was fawked and had to have them install OEM again. Next failure (i figure around 70-80K), I am upgrading for sure.

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OP, thanks for the info. i just rolled 11k and the chirping is driving me nuts - i've been told it's likely the throwout bearing, not the clutch itself. making my appointment today.... i've also had the popping out of gear thing happen. just this past weekend after pulling out of the garage, i threw her in first, went to let out the clutch and she dropped out of gear with a BANG. shit, i was sure i left my tranny on the road with the sound and shudder it made, lol
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Wow Larry, sounds like you had happen exactly what happened to me... given the parts list. Sorry to hear it, and good luck with the Corporate folks.

I was just pissed that my clutch only lasted me 37K. On my last car, it was 107K on the original before it started slipping. I only wish that I had a spec installed when it blew. I was fawked and had to have them install OEM again. Next failure (i figure around 70-80K), I am upgrading for sure.
My old YJ's clutch lasted until 100K miles.. What is it with clutches in these things..

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My old YJ's clutch lasted until 100K miles.. What is it with clutches in these things..
I got almost 70k on mine and the throwout is starting to whine a touch but it grabs great still...

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I just heard back from my dealer that I need to replace the clutch, slave cylinder, throw out bearing, some plate, etc. Just wonderful. I have 13,000 miles on it, and shockingly enough they don't want to cover it under 12,000 mile warranty.

The thing is, at 11,703 miles, I complained to the same dealer that I was having issued with the clutch, and it popping out of first gear. The tech told me there was nothing wrong with it, and it happens from time to time.

Sure it does.

So now I am staring at a $1300 bill to replace everything.

As suggested by JerzeyJeep, and Mr. T, I called Chrysler Corporate and opened a claim. I should hear back tomorrow about a resolution. Hopefully, they will offer "goodwill assistance" and cover the clutch. If not, I will be taking the Jeep off the lot, and bringing it to a shop close to me to have the clutch replaced. The shop quoted about $800 to replace everything with factory parts. Hey, I just saved enough to buy a bumper, or food since I don't have a job.

I figure if I do end up having to pay for it, I will upgrade the clutch to a Spec clutch...Jeremy at Spec said I should go for either the 2+ or 3+, being that this is my DD. While I haven't taken the Jeep off road here in Missouri yet, I am told that it is mostly rocks and mud, which is different than the sand and water in Jersey.

Any thoughts as to the 2+ or 3+. Should I be looking at a different manufacturer?

Thanks for any advice.
Owning a SPEC 3+ myself, I recommend a 2+ for DD. You can DD a 3+ once you get use to it, it just isnt going to slip like the factory one does. It won't even remotely feel the same as to what you are use to.

The one thing that you will be impressed by with the SPEC is the build quality.. when you unbox it you are gonna want to hang it on the wall.

Do a search for SPEC clutch for a more complete review.

Centerforce is another option and there are a couple people on JKO wo are running it.

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Owning a SPEC 3+ myself, I recommend a 2+ for DD. You can DD a 3+ once you get use to it, it just isnt going to slip like the factory one does. It won't even remotely feel the same as to what you are use to.

The one thing that you will be impressed by with the SPEC is the build quality.. when you unbox it you are gonna want to hang it on the wall.

Do a search for SPEC clutch for a more complete review.

Centerforce is another option and there are a couple people on JKO wo are running it.

Heard a lot of good about the Spec 3, on my Camaro I ran a McLeod DF race clutch, billet McLeod FW, mated to a fully built BW T-56 6spd, this damn clutch didn't slip a bit, never had any issues getting used to it, stiffer but adaptable. I have 400 miles left on warranty, dealership just replaced my 5th times a charm rattling clutch with a whole new full assembly...again. But once this one goes it's probably going to be Spec unless McLeod comes out with one.
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i threw her in first, went to let out the clutch and she dropped out of gear with a BANG. shit, i was sure i left my tranny on the road with the sound and shudder it made, lol
Mine did this the other morning, and I just thought I was being a retard and missed the shift. Should I be worried? If so, what do I tell the dealer to look for?
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Mine did this the other morning, and I just thought I was being a retard and missed the shift. Should I be worried? If so, what do I tell the dealer to look for?
1.5 yrs ago, mine was popping out of 2nd, 4th & 6th, dealer replaced the mechanism inside the shifter tower assembly that was screwed up. It seems to be a common problem, mine has worked fine since.
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1.5 yrs ago, mine was popping out of 2nd, 4th & 6th, dealer replaced the mechanism inside the shifter tower assembly that was screwed up. It seems to be a common problem, mine has worked fine since.
Then what was it sitting in the Ron Carter service bay for yesterday? Lol.
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My clutch pedal just started having a slight vibe feeling at 10000...I searched on the forum to find out if there are any known issues...apparently...there are several regarding the manual transmission in these JKs. Pity, since when I traded my 98 TJ with 150000 miles it still had the original clutch going strong...Guess they just don't make 'em like they used to........
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Here is what my clutch looked like. I have no idea what this means, or whether it looks bad or not, but the dealership said it was destroyed. You tell me.
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Then what was it sitting in the Ron Carter service bay for yesterday? Lol.

umm...not the clutch?...
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Don't get it done at the dealer.. i just had a hole clutch kit, slave and master cylinder installed and ready to go for $785

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Chrysler stepped up and is covering it under warranty. All is good in the world again.
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Yeah standard transmission stuff is easy enough if you were mechanically inclined enough to do your own lift you can do a manual trans job.
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Chrysler stepped up and is covering it under warranty. All is good in the world again.
Now you just need to learn how to drive stick . 2 clutches in under 12k miles ain't normal, Larry. Even with 35's.

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I noticed its hard for me to pop into 2nd and 3rd gear. not to hard but it needs pressure to put in those gears than any other. Is that something to worry about?
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Owning a SPEC 3+ myself, I recommend a 2+ for DD. You can DD a 3+ once you get use to it, it just isnt going to slip like the factory one does. It won't even remotely feel the same as to what you are use to.

The one thing that you will be impressed by with the SPEC is the build quality.. when you unbox it you are gonna want to hang it on the wall.

Do a search for SPEC clutch for a more complete review.

Centerforce is another option and there are a couple people on JKO wo are running it.
When my clutch was making noise, the dealership recommended changing to an aftermarket. I bought the SPEC 2+ after reading HITMONEY's reviews. They installed it under the warranty. What a difference.

The only thing I found different is starting the JK on the trail with the clutch engaged. Some areas the JK would not start with the SPEC where the stock clutched slipped.

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When my clutch was making noise, the dealership recommended changing to an aftermarket. I bought the SPEC 2+ after reading HITMONEY's reviews. They installed it under the warranty. What a difference.

The only thing I found different is starting the JK on the trail with the clutch engaged. Some areas the JK would not start with the SPEC where the stock clutched slipped.
You got a dealer to install a non factory part into a warranteed job? WOW!

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What is it with the clutches in the JK's? I had a YJ that had 160,000kms on it before it needed a clutch!
Currently my JK has 43,500kms on it and I would say 40,000kms of that is with 35's and so far so good *knocks on wood, crosses fingers, and whispers so the Jeep won't overhear and get ideas*. If it were to go I have my factory 100k km warranty I can try and use.

I have been to several local Jeep shops and every one reccomends LUK clutches for Jeeps. They say the LUK clutches stand up to water/mud of Ontario wheeling much better than a Spec or Centerforce will. The LUK is equivilant to a "2+" in other manufacturers clutches.
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Having driven clutches since the '48 Willys I think what's up with clutches these days is the hydro clutch as opposed to the cable ones. Real hard for me at least to tell exactly what the clutch is doing. Especially in the last one in the Xterra that had a dual mass flywheel for mall crawling. Does the JK have a dual mass flywheel? If so I'd recommend getting a Jim Wolf solid one.
That helped a little in the X. But it still burned a clutch every 8K like clockwork. The disk area was way too small for the weight of the X IMHO.

Clutches, how's that 1920s technology working out for y'all? Hell if the JK had a cable clutch I'd probably be owning one myself. They are a lot more fun than the auto but I got tired of the drama with today's clutch operation.


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My JK is in the shop tonight. It has been popping out of 1st gear for months and I thought it was just me. I have had sticks all my life and never had this happen before.

It appears from other forums that a TSB was issued for this 3/3/10 for this exact problem. Hopefully the dealer will not play the "we cannot replicate the problem" crap.

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