Well if you get into any sort of mods on your rig you will find foam in the body panels all over the place. The rear quarter panels are full of it as is the lower tub. You should be able to pull your rear tail lights and look in to see the foam.
Honestly, if you don't wheel your rig much it will hold up fairly well. If you wheel your rig even a little and especially with a harsh ride, it will start to rattle apart pretty quickly and if you wheel your rig really hard, even with a soft riding lift it's gonna start moaning and groaning and rattling all over the place, primarily in the dash areas. Just the nature of the beast.
Are you sure it's not just additional rust-proofing and sound-deadening? I'm not trying to make excuses for Chrysler, but I have a good feeling these materials are there for good reason. If there's foam inside the lighting housing, the odds are it's some sort of waterproofing, KNOWING
people are gonna go out and wheel hard.
Some people don't like change.
My JK stock is better than my CJ or YJ ever were even after a lot of mods. Plus the AC and defroster works.
Anyone else have a YJ where the floor crinkled and popped when you step on it?
How about the crack that develops on the inner door just under the wing window on every CJ/YJ full hard door ever?
My JK doesn't fling fluid out the rear of the TC like my YJ did with its 11.25" long ds and slip joint.
My front unit bearings don't need stub shafts to stay together like the old ones. A mod made on purpose to allow for trail damage.
I have never been tempted to put a Weber carb on my JK for better performance.
No dents in my plastic fenders yet.
Plus the JK is nice enough to get my wife to DD it. Without that I wouldn't have room for a Jeep in the fleet.
So next time you log onto AOL and read this post, use your rotary phone to call your buddy and if he is done fixing his carb he can give you a ride to the post office to pick up the VHS of Road Warrior you ordered. Don't forget to put a big log on so your mud hut is still warm when you get back. Hopefully it's before dark because your sealed beams are kinda dim, and there are no reflectors on the wagon trail you live near. Post office is so far away you may need to stop for gas because at 7 MPG 12 gallons only gets you so far, you can use your abacus to figure it out exactly.
Yes, progress sucks.
Anybody know what a luddite is?
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I've never owned a Jeep aside from my JK, so I can't really base an opinion on previous generations, other than the experience I had in my cousin's Jeep, which was really nothing more than a "ride in a Jeep."
I thought all Jeeps rattled at some point or another....at least the three I have owned have.
Mine has a strange "tinging" sound behind the dash from time to time, but as far as actual rattles, I haven't noticed any yet. I'm sure they will crop up, but as of right now, all is well. That being said, I haven't exactly wheeled the shit out of it, either.
All in all, I think Fiat ownership is a double-edged sword. On one side, there are the enthusiasts, and of course, on the other, there are the bean-counters. Maybe I'm wrong, but in Italy, off-roading isn't real popular; not like F1 and Rally, anyway. An Italian group of bean-counters simply aren't gonna "get it" when it comes to solid axle performance versus IFS performance, and the odds are they probably aren't gonna take the time to learn, either. It would really have to be explained to them in great detail as to why sticking with a solid axle suspension for the Wrangler is the best option; it's gonna need to be justified in a big way.
I think it's great Fiat is investing money into Chrysler and the improvements are very obvious, but with improvements also comes a level of, "change everything." Once that mindset is in place, things that aren't "broken" get "fixed." I think the only way the Wrangler will succeed with a solid axle suspension is if the bean-counters are able to experience both, a solid axle suspension and a IFS off-road in serious off-road conditions. The bean-counters are going to have to spend some time with the "passionate Jeepers" to really get a feel for who their customer base are and what they do with their rigs.