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post #1 of 17 Old 10-19-2012, 07:13 PM Thread Starter
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Tire chains.

So with winter fast approaching I'm looking at buying a set of tire chains as they are a requirement on the Sea to Sky between Oct and April. I don't really have any experience with chains other than some cable style ones I used a couple times on an old beater Tercel. These would mainly be for emergency use on the highway, but I might use them wheeling a few times too, at least on some of the icy fsrs.
What do I need to know about the different types, cable or chain? I'm leaning towards chain over the cable style.
Do I need chains for all 4 tires or just one set. If I buy one set, should I put them on the front or back for highway use?
Also, are there any clearance issues I need to watch out for?

I would much rather just buy winter rated tires, but having just bought new tires, I'm pretty sure my wife would kill me if I told her we need another set of tires, so thats out of the question.

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Here's a good place to start. I have never used chains, but I believe cables are better when there are clearance issues.


TIRE CHAINS

Tire chains may be installed on all models except the Sahara and Rubicon. Install chains on rear tires only. Follow these recommendations to guard against damage and excessive tire and chain wear:

Use chains on P225/75R16 rear tires only. P255/75R17, P255/70R18, and LT255/75R17 tires do not provide adequate clearance.
Use SAE class “S” tire chains or traction devices only.
Caution!
To avoid damage to your vehicle or tires, observe the following precautions:
Because of restricted chain clearance between tires and other suspension components, it is important that only chains in good condition are used. Broken chains can cause serious damage. Stop the vehicle immediately if noise occurs that could indicate chain breakage. Remove the damaged parts of the chain before further use.
Install chains on the rear wheels as tightly as possible and then retighten after driving about ˝ mile (0.8 km).
Do not exceed 30 mph (48 km/h).
Drive cautiously and avoid severe turns and large bumps, especially with a loaded vehicle.
Do not drive for prolonged period on dry pavement.
Observe the tire chain manufacturer's instructions on the method of installation, operating speed, and conditions for use. Always use the lower suggested operating speed of the chain manufacturer if different from the speed recommended by the manufacture.

Note: In order to avoid damage to tires, chains, and your vehicle do not drive for a prolonged period on dry pavement. Observe the tire chain manufacturer's instructions on method of installation, operating speed, and conditions for usage.

Always use the lower suggested operating speed if both the chain manufacturer and vehicle manufacturer suggest a maximum speed. This notice applies to all chain traction devices, including link and cable (radial) chains.
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Chains ? Its a JEEP. You just bought new tires ? Did you buy passenger car tires ?

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Pro comp mud and snow. Here you have to have winter tires (snowflake on sidewall) or carry chains. Not having one of those can result in a tow home.

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Hey ron normal chains are ok. U don't need the cable ones as they get more expensive when u buy them for 35's. I got a set for my 37's but I've yet had to use them. I got mine threw lordco. I've never had to use chains on the sea to sky just use 4 wheel drive and take it easy u got new tires they will do just fine

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Thanks Evan. I usually avoid the highway in storms anyways, but want to have them just in case the popo asks or in case I actually need them. Stopped by Lordco today, and they can get a set for about $250. Also stopped by Kal-Tire in Squampton and they sent me to a place called Triton Automotivewhere that will build custom chains. The Kal-Tire guy said it would be cheaper to go through them. That place was closed so I'm going to call them on Monday.

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Ron, according to web forums, I am the only one on the planet that has been through a chains/snow tire check on the planet. One was the Hope/princeton and I had a set of chains for my massive 31" bfgs in my cherokee. So they do check sometimes. (when i got my trxus tires, cops in valemont let me through a check when there was a couple feet of snow, but that was unusual and a bit off track)
I don't recall exactly, but you have 4 1/2" backspace don't you? That eliminates most of the clearance issues. The concerns are with the abs/bas and brake lines.
Most information sources recommend chains on the drive axles, so if you need 4wd, and only put 'em on the back you run into a situation where you can have the front sliding sideways in turns when the rear can push while the front only spins. My philosophy says get two sets of v pattern chains so if you actually need 'em then you get max traction in both straight and sideways directions. I haven't bought mine yet, but they are on the list.
That said, you only need to prove the chains (cables are legal afaik also) are with you and they fit your tires if there is a roadblock. I have seen anecdotal reports of icbc refusing coverage if you don't have the chains on when conditions require it...but also that the cops lower the bar and close the highway when that happens.
Anyway, let me know what price they quote, just in case The Great Pumpkin brings me cash.

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Darren, I spoke to that shop today. They don't actually make them there, they just have them made someplace else according to your tire size. They were not able to give me quote, not sure why. I'll probly order some through Lordco or online someplace. I was hoping to have them for a trip this week, but it's not gonna happen, so I will order them when when we get back.

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Darren, I spoke to that shop today. They don't actually make them there, they just have them made someplace else according to your tire size. They were not able to give me quote, not sure why. I'll probly order some through Lordco or online someplace. I was hoping to have them for a trip this week, but it's not gonna happen, so I will order them when when we get back.
Where you going? i have chains for 35s you can borrow if you are coming thru this way. and can drop them back off on your way home
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A few guys in our club use tire chains when we wheel. I was pretty impressed how well they worked, BUT when wheeling they only had them on the front as the rears would rub when flexed out.
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Where you going? i have chains for 35s you can borrow if you are coming thru this way. and can drop them back off on your way home
Thanks Dave, but we are gonna head the other way. We are planning to head to Penticton/Kelowna area and check out the KVR. Gonna take the scenic route, either up the Duffy or the Hurley, through Lilloet and try and spend a night at the Ranger Cabin in the Nahatlatch area. Leaving Wednseday morning and will be sleeping in the jeep aside from the cabin if it's unoccupied. Haven't figured out the part between Nahatlatch and Pentiction yet. Probly just gonna wing it and explore a little. If it was earlier in the year I would try and do this on as much dirt as possible. We will probly spend a night at Sloquet as well on the way home. This is more of camping and exploring trip than a wheeling trip. I was hoping to have chains just in case, but it looks like the weather might cooperate a little, so I'm not to worried.

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I ordered some from tirechain.com, $160 delivered to the door for my 35's
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I ordered some from tirechain.com, $160 delivered to the door for my 35's
Sweet. I saw their website but was worried about getting bent over by UPS.

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Sweet. I saw their website but was worried about getting bent over by UPS.
Arrived yesterday, nice small bag, hope to never use them.
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So with winter fast approaching I'm looking at buying a set of tire chains as they are a requirement on the Sea to Sky between Oct and April.
I can't believe that the popo require ppl to have chains! I've been on roads up here where they recommend you to have them... but never to the point where they'll fine you if you don't...

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I ordered some from tirechain.com, $160 delivered to the door for my 35's
Which ones did you order?
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If your up in Canada, check out http://www.canadianchains.ca

I picked up the Diamond Back Truck Chains (http://www.canadianchains.ca/Diamond...ruck_p_12.html) in a 35", and they work extremely well. Price is good too, and no duties as they are Canadian.
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