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Rubicon Trip To Remember

Our group recently made a weekend trip to the Rubicon. We had two Broncos , two YJs, a CJ7, a Toyota 4runner and my JK. We met at the Loon Lake trailhead friday night around 10:30 pm. By the time everyone showed up and we were ready to go, it was close to midnight. Just about that time, a light rain started to come down which made the trail slick. We made Ellis Creek by 2:00 am and camped there.
Saturday, the rain had stopped, we broke camp and we were back on the trail by 9:00 am. Some of the rigs played at the soup bowl, as we made our way to little sluice. Up to this point, the trail didn't present any problems. At little sluice, the guys lined up to run the box. The first rig in, one of the YJs, broke an outershaft on his D60, trying to push up and over a big boulder. It ended up rolling on its side and it took three rigs with winches and staps to pull it out of the sluice box. After about three hours for extraction and repair, we were back on the trail. The trail from little sluice to buck is tight in a number of places with plenty of opportunity for some body rash. I managed to make it all the way to buck with only a scratch on a door hinge when the Jeep rolled into a boulder as I was coming off a ledge. I had two guys pushing the jeep away from the boulder and one guy hanging on the passenger side as a counter weight so I could clear without any more rash. The group that was blocking the bypass, so I'd have to take the hard line, were just waiting for me to smash up against the rocks.

On our way to old sluice , the other YJ had a rear wheel come off when the wheel studs sheared off. We had the trail tied up for one hour because he broke where there was no way to get around. We finally made it to old sluice. I was the only rig in our group not to go through old sluice after watching a TJ roll onto a boulder at the first obstacle. I chose the alternate route over the slabs to get to buck island. About this time the weather changed and it began to hail heavy on us. With no doors and no top in the back, my daughter was freaking out. We made it to buck a little wet but otherwise safe. I learned later that the YJ , with the wheel that had come off, rolled in old sluice.

Camped that night at buck island. The next day, left camp at 10:00 am. We went about 1/8 mile and the CJ7 had electrical problems. Made the repair and headed on. A short time later, he got a sidewall tear. Plugged that but the plug wouldn't hold. It kept going flat as we went down the trail. It took two more attempts and I don't know, six plugs to get it to hold. Then, somewhere between Little Sluice and Walker Hill, the Toyota broke the steering arm off the passenger side knuckle and busted up the longfield. That repair took a long time. They had to rebuild the longfield. Two of the four studs that hold the steering arm to the knuckle, sheered off. They couldn't get the broken ones out so they tried welding the arm back in place. That lasted a short time before the welds broke. They got the welder back out , this time reinforcing it with some 3/8 flat stock and that held.
We took it very slow the rest of the way out hoping the Toyota would'nt break again. Then, as I was coming through a bit of a squeeze, That I had been through many times, I decided to climb a rock on the drivers side and this happened.
























In the first pic you can see where my tire was on the rock. Amazingly the damage was minimal. You can see in the pics, it was just the hard top and a door hinge. Look how close the rock was to the B pillar. I was an inch from taking out the windshield. We were just about to come off that rock too. I felt the JK was stable and in an instant we were over. It's a weird feeling, dangling from the seatbelt. We were incredibly fortunate to come out of that the way we did.

Afterward, we took it very slow and made it back to the trailers at around 9:00pm. We left loon lake at 10:00pm and I rolled up to my front door at 2:00am. That was a long day and weekend. Still though, a good time wheeling.

The trail carnage for the trip was three flops, one broken D60, a broken longfield and steering knuckle, a wheel coming off, an electrical failure and three cut tires as the two broncos had cut tires also.

More pics of the other rigs to follow.
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The YJs on their side:








Some of the guys in the soup bowl:





Going through old sluice:

Hail coming down


The reason I chose not to go through old sluice


My route to buck island






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Our Camp:





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Random pics of the other rigs:









A couple of scenic shots:





Thats it. Thanks for checking it out.

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I can't even begin to say how jealous i am...

I hope to be out that way sometime to hit the Rubicon and have my own memories!

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Wow! Rob! One of the best trail write-ups and pics we have had!!! Good job, buddy!

Glad you guys are ok on your flop! Kinda scary?

We are planning to do the 'Con (especially if you are going on that trip) next month. I was going to get through this weekend, then go into "plan for the Rubicon trip" mode! I am going to need some advice from you to get ready.

Maybe the rain will help keep the dust down!

Thanks for the great write-up and pics!!!!

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glad the trip was fun and everyone is ok i cant wait to come up and try rubicon sometime

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Great luck missing the windshield frame. Thanks for sharing, looks like a hell of a lot of fun and work.

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Best trail write-up, Glad damage is to a minimum.
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Nice write up and great pics

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Wow, great report and pix. Cant believe all the carnage out there. Anyone in your group make it out unscathed? Also High Five for the roll and minimal damage landing.

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A trip to remember?

I've run the 'con more than once and with no where near the carnage you guys took. I still remember 'em all though! I've never run her in the rain but after your adventure I don't think I want to.
Nice pics & write-up.
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Wow, great report and pix. Cant believe all the carnage out there. Anyone in your group make it out unscathed? Also High Five for the roll and minimal damage landing.

Marshin, nobody made it out this time without some kind of problem. I've wheeled with these guys before and we've had breakdowns but not like this trip. This was an exception. I hope.
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Sorry bout the flop - but amazing how little was damaged. Hell of a story anyways!

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I want to "do the con" so bad but I think me and my littel JK have a lot of growign up to do before we are ready. I cant imagine that kind of trouble in a month of wheeling here, let alone a wekend. I got to learn soem skills and the jeep is goign to need a few more emptying of my pockets before i think ill tackle the con. your pics still made me jealous.
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Wow, great trail report and pics!!



gonna move the thread to the trail and trips report section... let everyone see this.

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Wow Rob! Glad to hear you guys are ok and just minimal damage. Those little rock angels were watching out for you! I can't believe how lucky you were not to have more damage. My hat's off to you, you sure know how to wheel that green JK!! Was the family in the Jeep with you when it went over? Great pics and write up man, can't wait to do the Rubicon with you sometime.
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Wow Rob! Glad to hear you guys are ok and just minimal damage. Those little rock angels were watching out for you! I can't believe how lucky you were not to have more damage. My hat's off to you, you sure know how to wheel that green JK!! Was the family in the Jeep with you when it went over? Great pics and write up man, can't wait to do the Rubicon with you sometime.

I had Gianna with me. She went through several stages of emotion. One of which was being mad at Dad. We talked for a while and now she brags to her friends about it. Look forward to wheeling with you again.
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I had Gianna with me. She went through several stages of emotion. One of which was being mad at Dad. We talked for a while and now she brags to her friends about it. Look forward to wheeling with you again.
I'll bet that was a little tramatic for her. I don't think my girls would be too happy with me in that situation either. Now Ryan on the other hand ... I think he would have just pulled out another one of those, "Dad's bad a--" comments again.
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Looks like a great trip. That's an awesome result to a nasty flop. Glad everybody made it out OK. That place is beautiful.
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You're daughter looks kind of pissed here.

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Great picts and report Rob! My brother and I are planing a trip in August to the Con. It will be our 4th time there but my first time in the new JK. I did it with a TJ before. I'm not sure I am going to run the Old Sluice either!! I ran it with the TJ but I remember it being so tight. Especially the last bolulder. Man... This report makes you sit back and "respect" the con. Sh!t can happen! Thanks for sharing.

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Great picts and report Rob! My brother and I are planing a trip in August to the Con. It will be our 4th time there but my first time in the new JK. I did it with a TJ before. I'm not sure I am going to run the Old Sluice either!! I ran it with the TJ but I remember it being so tight. Especially the last bolulder. Man... This report makes you sit back and "respect" the con. Sh!t can happen! Thanks for sharing.

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Excellent Pics! This is the perfect example of why you have to carry spare parts for EVERYTHING when running this trail. You have to pack in everything...not like something like Moab where you can usually limp off the trail and get to a shop or the road and get towed to a shop.

Your trip reminds me a little of our last trip to Moab. In the 5 previous times all or part of my group has gone to Moab we have had little to no carnage. However, this years EJS was a bad one; broken control arm mounts, u joints, body damage...all more that all the other years combined. Crazy how it just happens.

Great pics and you should share more!!!

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wonderful pics...thanks for sharing...

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Amazing write up. Thanks for your time to do that. I cant wait to do something like that one day. Well, minus the carnage.

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