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Clunk in Steering Revisited???

I'm still getting a clunk in the steering column after many trips to the dealer!!! go figure!! Anyway, I have greased the column going into the firewall as described somewhere on this forum. Well today, I was changing my oil and hit my head on one of the stabilizer bars! well it moved it enough that I heard a clunk (no not my head) My ? is... when the stabilizer bars are manually moved I can hear a clunk, where I believe is coming from the balljoint. Anyone know of a fix? or suggesion??? Dealer has replaced clock spring sensor so far...This is driving me nuts........
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I'm still getting a clunk in the steering column after many trips to the dealer!!! go figure!! Anyway, I have greased the column going into the firewall as described somewhere on this forum. Well today, I was changing my oil and hit my head on one of the stabilizer bars! well it moved it enough that I heard a clunk (no not my head) My ? is... when the stabilizer bars are manually moved I can hear a clunk, where I believe is coming from the balljoint. Anyone know of a fix? or suggesion??? Dealer has replaced clock spring sensor so far...This is driving me nuts........
I have had the clunk for several thousand miles now...have greased it, and it still came back. I have just gotten used to it, and only notice it once in a while. It doesn't harm anything though, so I would just try to live with it...it doesn't harm anything.

As for the stabilizer bar...do you have aftermarket links? If so, you could just take a grease needle to it if they don't have zerks. That would most likely be a temporary solution to it. Did you check to make sure the bolts at the axle and swaybar are tight? There really shouldn't be much play (if any) in the ball joints. If so, you may need to replace the links/link ends.

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I have the RE 3.5" lift on my Jeep. It came with longer links for the front sway bar and they are "loose" in that you can hear them click if you bounce the Jeep. I don't actually hear them much at all when driving but the noise is quite noticeable if you bounce or rock the Jeep in the garage.

I had the steering column clunk for quite awhile and it drove me nuts. I lubed the joint and it was a miracle cure. You mentioned that you greased the column at the firewall. It's the slip joint covered by the rubber boot near the front of the column that needs lubed. I think PhilD was the one that described this. I bought one of the needle point style fittings for my grease gun, used it to puncture the rubber boot, squirted several pumps of the handle into it and then sort of "mushed" it all around and particularly toward the back. The noise was completely gone, along with the knocking that I felt in the steering wheel, and has not returned.
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Anyway, I have greased the column going into the firewall as described somewhere on this forum.
That is not the place to grease it, you should grease it at the slip joint on the shafts, the boot down towards the steering box.

I've greased mine twice in 34k miles and it keeps the "clunk" away. I fill the boot with a lot of grease, then spend a minute or two squishing it around by hand to make sure it gets everywhere.
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Hmmm... I've been having this clunk in my steering wheel lately. Its more a "feeling" than a sound or anything else though (could be that I've got the radio playing too loud though ).

Okay... Lets assume for a brief moment that I'm a dunce .
Whats this needle fitting look like? I've got a zirk connection on the grease gun hose. Is this an additional attachment? I'm assuming "yes". Does anyone have a picture of where they made this cut and added the grease?

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Hmmm... I've been having this clunk in my steering wheel lately. Its more a "feeling" than a sound or anything else though (could be that I've got the radio playing too loud though ).
That's it, more of "click" feel than a sound of clunk.


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Whats this needle fitting look like? I've got a zirk connection on the grease gun hose. Is this an additional attachment? I'm assuming "yes". Does anyone have a picture of where they made this cut and added the grease?
No need to make any cuts, just use a needle adapter (pic to follow) and push it through the boot.

I put a lot of grease in the boot, not full, but still plenty of grease. Then gave it a good squishing to make sure it got everywhere. Lasted 30k miles before I needed to do it again just recently.
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Excuse the crappy photo, but here it is. You can get them as part of grease adapter kits, which are cheap and have plenty of useful adapters.
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Cool. Thanks Phil!
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Injector bought. Grease injected. Clunk gone.







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Hello Phil,
While you have the camera out can you take a picture of the boot that we should be greasing. I was also under the impression that it was at the firewall also.

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Will go take a pic in a minute or two...
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the dealer is installing a new intermideate shaft for me monday. maybe I should just show them this.
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I think I'm getting the same thing- just a slight "tap" in the wheel while driving, esp over smallish bumps like a dirt road
guess it's time to go try to find a grease needle


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Sweat, Thanks Phil. I was trying to grease the wrong spot.

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Sweat, Thanks Phil. I was trying to grease the wrong spot.
yeah thats what she said

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Yeah, I was having the same problem -- tried Phil's suggestion; at first, it didn't seem to do anything, but after putting about 500 miles on it, the 'thunk' has reduced dramatically. Not entirely, but I don't think about it every 3 seconds now. It seems to have taken a while to get all of that grease worked in (and, boy, did I add plenty of it =)

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That is not the place to grease it, you should grease it at the slip joint on the shafts, the boot down towards the steering box.

I've greased mine twice in 34k miles and it keeps the "clunk" away. I fill the boot with a lot of grease, then spend a minute or two squishing it around by hand to make sure it gets everywhere.
Did that yesterday and seems it cured my steering noises.

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I have the same “feeling”, it’s not a clunk but I notice something. I’ll have to try this.
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yeah thats what she said
Mine gets all mad when I try that
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I have the same “feeling”, it’s not a clunk but I notice something. I’ll have to try this.
Mine was definitely a feeling, not a sound and it did go away after the grease job.
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Mine gets all mad when I try that
You must be doing it wrong then
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I also had this "clicking" noise/feeling. Greasing the slip/spline in ths shaft helped, but didnt solve the total problem.

My JK also had a bit of a shake in the steering wheel. Back and forth, rappidly (almost a slight shimmy), but I could tell that it wasnt a shimmy from the tires or steering linkage. I tightened the sector shaft adjustment on the top of the box (loosen the jam nut and tighten the allen, re-tighten the jam nut). Dont go to tight. I turned the allen aprox. 1/2 turn.

This minor adjustment solved the problem and the Jeep now drives great.

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My JK also had a bit of a shake in the steering wheel. Back and forth, rappidly (almost a slight shimmy), but I could tell that it wasnt a shimmy from the tires or steering linkage. I tightened the sector shaft adjustment on the top of the box (loosen the jam nut and tighten the allen, re-tighten the jam nut). Dont go to tight. I turned the allen aprox. 1/2 turn.

This minor adjustment solved the problem and the Jeep now drives great.
That's funny that you mention that, mine has slowly been getting more and more of a shimmy in the steering wheel, and I was wondering what it was, as I didn't feel it anywhere else. (I can feel an unbalanced tire, like when I've got a giant chunk of mud stuck in a wheel in the whole jeep.)

I'm going to try that out - as it would certainly make longer drives easier on the old arms there.

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I tightened the sector shaft adjustment on the top of the box (loosen the jam nut and tighten the allen, re-tighten the jam nut). Dont go to tight. I turned the allen aprox. 1/2 turn.
I've done that in the past on other vehicles with good results. The correct process for doing it is a real pain, but as long as you don't go too tight, a slight adjustment is pretty easy to do.
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