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Old 10-10-2011, 09:42 AM   #1
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I have not seen any talk on here about 2012 programmers/tuners yet, anybody know if anybodys close to releasing one? This motor and tranny combo has been out a while in the Grand so some testing has to have already begun. When i talked to a master jeep mechanic he said these VVT motors have a lot of potential with just a good tuner, Like he said the Charger motor has 305hp, he said the motors the same just a diffrent program.
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At the moment, there aren't even any programmers out that are compatible with the 2011 ECM. From what I've read/been told, it's the same ECM for the 2012, too. They can't seem to get past the security features, which is why we haven't seen one for anything newer than a 2010. There's a long list of us waiting, my friend.
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I have a place in that long, long list....
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Not exactly a performance programmer, but I spoke with AEV last week and they said the ProCals were starting to ship this week for the '12s.
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Old 10-10-2011, 12:53 PM   #5
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The procal has some nice features, but I'm looking to unleash some more hidden power in the wrangler 3.6. Like I said the Dodge Charger has the same motor and is rated at 305HP

Hell I dont even have a 2012 yet:, as soon as some more performance upgrades come out I'm going to pull the trigger and order a new rubi and get rid of this gutless 2010.

Come on RIPP abd get the supercharger done for the 3.6.
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Old 10-10-2011, 12:53 PM   #6
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For just your standard tire size / TPMS programming features. The AEV procal already works just fine. The old AEV Procal I used on my 2007 continued to work just fine on my 2012.

As for a tuner like Superchips? I'd expect around a year's wait as the 2011s are still not released as pointed out.
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I have a '12 and even with the 3.21 gears and 35s, it's still way more powerful than my 09 was. I'm ordering gears this week so will gain back power and then some there.

Eventually, when a performance programmer becomes available, I'll buy one but I wouldn't wait if thats all thats holding you back.
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There is a Co. in So. Cal that has already pulled 312 hp, the kit is soon to be released for the 3.6, once there all done with videos an charts of the pulls on the dyno, this is a normal aspirated kit, (N/A),
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I have a '12 and even with the 3.21 gears and 35s, it's still way more powerful than my 09 was. I'm ordering gears this week so will gain back power and then some there.

Eventually, when a performance programmer becomes available, I'll buy one but I wouldn't wait if thats all thats holding you back.
You will have to buy a programmer to put new gears in a 2012 Just giving you a heads up.
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You will have to buy a programmer to put new gears in a 2012 Just giving you a heads up.
Yeah I know. Hence my post about speaking with AEV last week. lol Thanks though.
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Old 10-10-2011, 04:34 PM   #11
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OZ97tj,

I have an 2010 that will hold me over till some of the other aftermarket parts come out for the 2012, I want to wait and see what the winter chill looks like in person before I order one.

I have test driven a 2012 for a weekend and ran (beat) it pretty hard, theres no doudt 2012 is a way better setup. I just think the 3.6 has a lot of extra power thats hidden and will take minimal things to unleash it
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Whats the name of the company with this possiable kit coming out? Do you know what changes they did to get it?
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I have an 2010 that will hold me over till some of the other aftermarket parts come out for the 2012, I want to wait and see what the winter chill looks like in person before I order one.

I have test driven a 2012 for a weekend and ran (beat) it pretty hard, theres no doudt 2012 is a way better setup. I just think the 3.6 has a lot of extra power thats hidden and will take minimal things to unleash it
I agree the motor has more potential. I was tempted to wait for to see the gecko color, but found one optioned how I wanted it in sahara tan so I bought it. Nothing wrong with waiting for the color you want.
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It is official--the AEV ProCal Module 1.5 is ready to ship! Having already slapped 37's on my 2012, I ordered mine today! Although technically not called a "performance" programmer, it does adjust your shift points based on your tire size, gears, etc, as well as correct your speedo, allow for higher winching idle, daytime running lights, etc. I have used these on all of my bigger JK's with great satisfaction. http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/procal_module/
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Old 10-10-2011, 07:10 PM   #15
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Whats the name of the company with this possiable kit coming out? Do you know what changes they did to get it?
Its not a procal type, were talking about a N/A kit, ie a intake that pulls perfect amount of AFR, A bolt on exhaust axle back system, an a zietronics piggyback system, thats a plug n play system, its not a chip or programmable device, I know they have been trying to become vendors here on JKO. As they are building a JKU Rubicon for SEMA, The company is Road Race Motorsports, there well know across the world to bring power out of OE vehicles, They build alot of vehicles for the OE, an also have been assisted by Chysler on this build, along with Warn, PSC, Rock Krawler, sPOD, Rigid LED, Toyo tires, Trail Ready Beadlocks, PRP seats, ICON shocks, Garvin Racks, Xtorm 4wd, Drake Offroad, Carbon Trix, Viair, etc. they are also devolpeing a real big brake kit, like a 4piston caliper setup,,
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It is official--the AEV ProCal Module 1.5 is ready to ship! Having already slapped 37's on my 2012, I ordered mine today! Although technically not called a "performance" programmer, it does adjust your shift points based on your tire size, gears, etc, as well as correct your speedo, allow for higher winching idle, daytime running lights, etc. I have used these on all of my bigger JK's with great satisfaction. http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/procal_module/
Nena, give Randall Davis a call, he has driven Road Race Motorsports 2012 JKU, an his test drive was amazing,,,,
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Rumor on the dodge forums is 2 companies have cracked the 11-12 codes for the ram trucks. Same encryption as the 11-12 wranglers!
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Rumor on the dodge forums is 2 companies have cracked the 11-12 codes for the ram trucks. Same encryption as the 11-12 wranglers!
This is true!!! Be on the look out for an announcement from a major company soon (e.t.a. 2 to 4 weeks)
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I have not seen any talk on here about 2012 programmers/tuners yet, anybody know if anybodys close to releasing one? This motor and tranny combo has been out a while in the Grand so some testing has to have already begun. When i talked to a master jeep mechanic he said these VVT motors have a lot of potential with just a good tuner, Like he said the Charger motor has 305hp, he said the motors the same just a diffrent program.
I'm pretty sure the challengers etc. do have a different cam as well as the programming.
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This is true!!! Be on the look out for an announcement from a major company soon (e.t.a. 2 to 4 weeks)
its 2-4 weeks later and no anouncments from any one who has supposedly cracked the ecu and developed a programer. what major company was supposed to make the big anouncement?
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its 2-4 weeks later and no anouncments from any one who has supposedly cracked the ecu and developed a programer. what major company was supposed to make the big anouncement?
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-AEV Procal already works for tire size, gear ratios, etc. etc.

-Superchips estimated a January release of their software update allowing the Flashpaq to work for 2012s.
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where is the info or media source for what they have coming down the pipe line?
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-AEV Procal already works for tire size, gear ratios, etc. etc.

-Superchips estimated a January release of their software update allowing the Flashpaq to work for 2012s.
This is first I've heard of this. Is this supposed to be the same programmer for the 3.8 JKs or a whole new programmer. I have the one from my 09 so I better not sell it if it'll work on my 12.
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