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Old 12-03-2011, 08:44 PM   #76
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Have you experimented with any of the styles of Headers to see what fits? Novak has talked to me about Sanderson Headers but I am wondering how the manifods fit verses a set of block huggers.
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We how have all of are mounts done for the 4L80, 4L60, 4L65, 4L70, 6L80.
For the 4L60,65,70 you will need to take the trans apart to install a new main shaft and rear adapter. So you can use any T Case you want like the Rock Track (Rubicon T Case) or a Atlas.
We are going to sell this either with the kit or separate, or we can do it for you.
It should only cost about $200 to $300 in labor at any trans shop.
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will you be able to run a snorkel?

and whats a ball park number on the price of ALL the parts. trans engine kit harness,everything.
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will you be able to run a snorkel?

and whats a ball park number on the price of ALL the parts. trans engine kit harness,everything.
That is a good question, what engine/trans are you wanting to run. We are trying to figure this out.
Like what you will need, like wiring all new possibly $1500.00, engine mounts/trans mounts $500.00, Radiator $700.00, Exhaust $600.00, Jeep Computer reprogramming $350.00, Exhaust Manifold for the passenger side $60.00, AC Lines $300.00, Fuel line $100.00.
I think that is it.
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That is a good question, what engine/trans are you wanting to run. We are trying to figure this out.
Like what you will need, like wiring all new possibly $1500.00, engine mounts/trans mounts $500.00, Radiator $700.00, Exhaust $600.00, Jeep Computer reprogramming $350.00, Exhaust Manifold for the passenger side $60.00.
I think that is it.
i dont know. ill jump on the band wagon and say the 5.3, i also want a manual trans.
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i dont know. ill jump on the band wagon and say the 5.3, i also want a manual trans.
What trans, we could do a T56 but first gear is a little high.
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in yall's opinion, is the 5.3 enough for a JKU? i rode in my uncle's extended cab chevy this weekend with the 5.3 and it seemed to move that thing nicely...and of course didn't sound like that pos 3.8 lol
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in yall's opinion, is the 5.3 enough for a JKU? i rode in my uncle's extended cab chevy this weekend with the 5.3 and it seemed to move that thing nicely...and of course didn't sound like that pos 3.8 lol
I think the 5.3L/4L65 is the best match for the Jeep, we can get every thing to work like cruse, Rubicon T Case and it will get the best gas mileage.
We have a couple of 5.3L Jeeps putting out 300 HP to the ground.
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I think the 5.3L/4L65 is the best match for the Jeep, we can get every thing to work like cruse, Rubicon T Case and it will get the best gas mileage.
We have a couple of 5.3L Jeeps putting out 300 HP to the ground.
What about the sport t-case? Sorry if it's been covered already. And can you pm me a quote for labor to install possibly?

Edit- what gears are y'all liking with that combo and 35-37s?

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Old 12-05-2011, 07:56 AM   #86
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What about the sport t-case? Sorry if it's been covered already. And can you pm me a quote for labor to install possibly?

Edit- what gears are y'all liking with that combo and 35-37s?

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Yes even the non Rubicon T Case, any T Case.
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What trans, we could do a T56 but first gear is a little high.
honestly i dont know much about transmissions. what would you suggest? i live in florida so its a flat lander. main reason. im tired of the rednecks in their big trucks smoking me off the line

so its about 4 grand for parts and about 4 grand for an install?
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honestly i dont know much about transmissions. what would you suggest? i live in florida so its a flat lander. main reason. im tired of the rednecks in their big trucks smoking me off the line

so its about 4 grand for parts and about 4 grand for an install?
I think the best way to do this is to find a Donor, lets say a 5.3L/4L65 will probably be the cheapest engine and trans combo ($2500.00 or less).
But we have guys finding all kinds of different engine/trans combos and any LS engine will work, but keep in mind same year or newer for emissions.
I think the 4L60, 65, 70, is going to be the best trans for the money, but we can do almost any trans.
With gearing I think at 70 MPH you need to be at 2000 RPM.
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so what did the 5.3l and 4l65 come in? trucks, camaros?
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so what did the 5.3l and 4l65 come in? trucks, camaros?
I think this is what it came out of but I am not positive:
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No 5.3 in the Vettes...

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E-ROD crate engine package—an unprecedented, emissions compliant powertrain that includes an LS3 crate engine and other necessary parts to be 50-state emissions compliant. With the LS3 engine and its stunning combination of horsepower and efficiency, a Jeep builder can expect great performance.
There are several states (as well as foreign countries) that require emissions compliance for specialty constructed vehicles. This has made it increasingly difficult for enthusiasts to build true high-performance Jeeps and stay in the good graces of the law. E-ROD engines are an answer to these political pressures. GMPP worked closely with the influential California Air Resources Board (CARB) and secured approval that makes E-ROD-equipped vehicles compliant in California and other areas that mirror CARB's recommendations and emissions standards. GMPP is the pioneer for this new era in Jeeping, as no other O.E.M. or aftermarket manufacturer offers a comparable, CARB- approved system.

Package Includes:
■6.2-liter LS3 crate engine, rated at 430 horsepower and 424 lb.-ft. of torque
■Engine wiring harness
■Engine control module with emissions-legal calibration
■Catalytic converters
■Exhaust manifolds
■Oxygen sensors and sensor bosses
■Fuel tank evaporative emissions canister
■Air filter
■Mass airflow sensor and sensor boss
■Accelerator pedal (for use with the LS3s electronic throttle)
■Instruction manual
■430 horse
■376 cubes
■24-month 50,000 mile GMPP parts and labor warranty

Starting with the '08 Corvette, the world was first introduced to GM's latest small block V8 creation the 6.2-liter LS3. A continuation of the industry leading V8 engines from GM Powertrain, the LS3 kicks out 430 horsepower and 424 lb.-ft. of torque. (In the Corvette, those numbers go to 436 hp and 428 lb.-ft. of torque with the optional dual mode exhaust system.) It's a brute of a small block with 376 ready cubes at your beckon call.

The LS series of engines from GM Powertrain have broken new ground for efficiency and performance from a pushrod platform engine. The LS3 continues the engineering breakthroughs with revised cylinder heads featuring rectangle ports borrowed from the vaunted LS7. The heads feature 63 cc combustion chambers, 2.16-inch intake valves, and 1.59-inch exhaust valves. The camshaft features an aggressive .551-inches of lift on the intake side with less overlap (than the LS2) for even greater airflow and power. Rocker arms with a 1.7:1 ratio sit on top of the heads.

In the bottom end, the aluminum 6-bolts/main block features 4.06-inch bores and 3.62-inch stroke. A nodular iron crankshaft, powdered metal rods, and aluminum pistons (10.7:1 compression ratio) round out a rev-happy short block. Red line for the LS3 comes at 6600 rpm, and you will get there very quickly.
With a high-tech GM foundation, aluminum block, and high flowing rectangular-port heads, the LS3 is the new standard in the small block world. The LS3 helps power the new Corvette to a top speed of 190 mph. What will it power you to?

Technical Specifications:
■Balanced: Internal
■Block Part Number: 12584727
■Block Type: Cast aluminum with 6-bolt main caps
■Bore x stroke (in): 4.06 x 3.62 (103.25 x 92mm)
■Camshaft duration (@.050 in): 204 degree intake / 211 degree exhaust
■Camshaft Part Number: 12603844
■Camshaft Type: Hydraulic roller
■Compression ratio: 10.7:1
■Connecting rods (P/N 12617570): Powdered metal
■Crankshaft (P/N 12597569): Nodular iron
■Cylinder heads (P/N 12598594): LS3 rectangle port; as cast with 68cc chambers
■Displacement (cu in): 376 cu in (6.2L)
■Engine type: LS Series Gen IV small-block V-8
■Maximum recommended rpm: 6600
■Pistons Part Number: 19165089
■Pistons Type: Hypereutectic aluminum
■Recommended fuel: 92 octane
■Reluctor wheel: 58X
■Rocker arm ratio: 1.7:1
■Rocker arms exhaust Part Number: 10214664
■Rocker arms exhaust Type: Investment cast, roller trunnion
■Rocker arms intake Part Number: 12569167
■Rocker arms intake Type: Investment cast, roller trunnion
■Valve Lift (in): .551 intake / .522 exhaust
■Valve size (in): 2.16 intake / 1.59 exhaust

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General Motors limited 2 year / 50,000 mile parts & labor warranty.
We are working on selling and installing the 5.3L E Rod engine and the LS3 E Rod and the LSA E Rod engine with a full Warranty.
The Warranty will be done at any GM Dealer Ship.
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E-ROD crate engine package—an unprecedented, emissions compliant powertrain that includes an LS3 crate engine and other necessary parts to be 50-state emissions compliant. With the LS3 engine and its stunning combination of horsepower and efficiency, a Jeep builder can expect great performance.
There are several states (as well as foreign countries) that require emissions compliance for specialty constructed vehicles. This has made it increasingly difficult for enthusiasts to build true high-performance Jeeps and stay in the good graces of the law. E-ROD engines are an answer to these political pressures. GMPP worked closely with the influential California Air Resources Board (CARB) and secured approval that makes E-ROD-equipped vehicles compliant in California and other areas that mirror CARB's recommendations and emissions standards. GMPP is the pioneer for this new era in Jeeping, as no other O.E.M. or aftermarket manufacturer offers a comparable, CARB- approved system.
I just wanted to compliment you guys (not that you need it). I have heard nothing but good things about you and your shop from all of my NorCal & Pirate brothers. However watching this thread has been interesting, to see you take in customer/owner feedback, apply it, work efficiently on solutions to obstacles, and work toward a finished project. Very impressive.

You guys, this thread, and my love for Chevrolet, have effectively reprioritized the rest of my build. I'll be in touch as soon as I'm ready.

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Have you guys looked into using c5 or c6 exhaust manifolds? They are very well designed, and yet still one of the first things vette owners replace when hopping up their motors, which makes them cheap to find on places like ls1tech.com, ebay, etc.
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So is this going to be a kit soon? The other guys raised their price $2000.
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Have you guys looked into using c5 or c6 exhaust manifolds? They are very well designed, and yet still one of the first things vette owners replace when hopping up their motors, which makes them cheap to find on places like ls1tech.com, ebay, etc.
The engine mounts we use we can only use an exhaust manifold that exits out the rear, we can use the Camaro manifolds and the left truck manifold and a right Trailblazer manifold.
The Mounts we use are Jeep Grand Cherokee mounts designed to work with the DOD/MDS engines, we use them for high clearance so the axle will have room.
They were designed to work with the Hemi engines and the Hemi is a copy of the LS.
We have found Camaro manifolds for $100 used on Ebay for both (SLP) and found headers for under $300.00, but CARB legal ones for around $600.00.
Are goal is to have a very good package for every one, using the LS engine is harder because of how many different styles of engine are out there.
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So is this going to be a kit soon? The other guys raised their price $2000.
Very soon, We have built a all new wiring harness and a cruse control system, working with the E-Rod engine and any other LS.
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Emmisions question

I have read the blog and kind of understand what it takes to be compliant. I still have a question though.

1) In 06-07 GM went to VVT and a diffrent style computer. So how do they know what year the engine came from? Can we buy a 06 motor, build it, and run a new style wiring harness / computer programed to the same model year Jeep and just have the VVT disabled for the older block? Example 06 GM 5.3l donor engine and trans with computer programmed for 2011 minus VVT/DOD, installed into a 2011 Jeep.
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Lots of work to get this all figured out but I think the market will be there when you get it down to kit form. Thanks for staying at the job of problem, problem, problem solving. I hope to be able to do this one day even with my budget build. I still have good credit!
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