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Old 07-07-2011, 10:57 PM   #51
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With the 5.3 you could run your stock 6-speed and TC using the Novak adaptor.

For more power you could run a NVG 4500 from a Chevy.

In either case you would need to add a VSS on the transmission output shaft.

We could flash the E38 for a manual tune. We are planning on a manual swap as soon as we get the auto in production, but it's pretty straight forward.


does that mean i can re-use my jk Manuel 6-speed trans on GM 5.3L engine ?
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does that mean i can re-use my jk Manuel 6-speed trans on GM 5.3L engine ?
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It does thank you. Nice work! I didn't realize these ECM's in certain instances shared the same input on some sensors. Very innovative work arounds and mixing to interface. Wow!
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very cool. Another thing to consider is these 5.3's and LS motors in general respond EXTREMELY well to cam/intake modifications. My ls1 (5.7) with ported 5.3 heads, ls6 intake and a decent cam and stock bottom end made 415 rwhp. This is way more then enough and easily double the output the minivan motor could ever hope to make with any power adder. In my experience, the motors are stupid tough, they will develop piston slap over time but it doesnt really seem to hurt anything. every time i've blown a motor its been due to valve spring failure (p.s. dont skimp on valve springs if you're running a large cam lol) i'd feel 100% comfortable with reliability on these LS motors up to around 500 RWHP. my camaro was making 415 on motor and 596 on a 200 direct port. fun stuff. Too bad the rubi transfer case wont work. hopefully in a few more years when the warranty expires more adapters will have come out so i can shoehorn a LS motor in my junk. a unlimited sitting on 40s with a MS3 cammed ls6 or something idling would be the shit. LOL
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awesome work, look forward to this down the road for myself, in my area, 5.3's are cheap and easy to come by, since our area is popular among the chevy truck clubs, and they are swapping 5.3's left and right out of their truck in favor of 6.0's. So I can source low mileage 5.3's for 500-800 bucks complete minus trans. I rather sell off my track motor for my car and get myself your kit.

Questions: How do you feel about gear ratios after performing the 5.3 swap with 6 speed? Would closer to oem gearing be fine, or would you still advice on lower gearing for larger tires? I dont like the drastic gear ratio changes in order to run larger tires with our 3.8's.

Also does the OEM obd port provide info for the GM ECU or is there a separate OBD port/location for the GM computer?
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awesome work, look forward to this down the road for myself, in my area, 5.3's are cheap and easy to come by, since our area is popular among the chevy truck clubs, and they are swapping 5.3's left and right out of their truck in favor of 6.0's. So I can source low mileage 5.3's for 500-800 bucks complete minus trans. I rather sell off my track motor for my car and get myself your kit.

Questions: How do you feel about gear ratios after performing the 5.3 swap with 6 speed? Would closer to oem gearing be fine, or would you still advice on lower gearing for larger tires? I dont like the drastic gear ratio changes in order to run larger tires with our 3.8's.

Also does the OEM obd port provide info for the GM ECU or is there a separate OBD port/location for the GM computer?
With the low gears available in the 6 speed combined with the torque of the V-8 final gear ratio is very forgiving. I've run 3:20's with 32" tires (that is what the JK in the video has) and it gets good mpg and has more than enough power on the road. You will find on a long steep 6-8% grade the trans. will come back into 5th. Otherwise at 70mph you will cruise at around 1700 rpm in 6th.

On another 5.3 swap we did it has 4:11's and 35's which also work out great. The important thing to remember is we now have V8 torque, hp is nice but torque moves the vehicle.

The 6 speed has a 4.027:1 1st gear, about 20-25% lower than the other autos. Being clutch-to-clutch it has less internal friction. This means it gets a 5,000 lb JK off the line better than a more powerful engine with an obsolete tranny. Better yet tuning the 6 speed is easy with readily available software.

Recently I've had several converstions with Hemi conversion guys and it seems their biggest complaint is the transmission and programming. GM has done a great job with the 6 speed to get the most from the powertrain. This gives you more choices for gearing.

For DD stay with stock or close to stock gearing. Even with a tire size 1 or 2" larger it's not a problem. If your main goal is to crawl than by all means throw some 4:56's or 5:13's in it.


We run two DLC's; one for Jeep and the other GM. Each provides full scan, code, and programming capabilities. To stay within Federal guidlines both DLC's are in the stock location. The GM DLC is used for powertrain and emmision testing. The Jeep DLC is used to talk to the Jeep network-the can bus.
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What about the ESP function with the OEM manual 6 speed?

I saw the video with the cruise control lever modification (light), other than this and an extra check engine light for the engine (where do you guys put this) are there any other interior modifications required for the swap?

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What about the ESP function with the OEM manual 6 speed?

I saw the video with the cruise control lever modification (light), other than this and an extra check engine light for the engine (where do you guys put this) are there any other interior modifications required for the swap?
The ESP operates like stock minus torque reduction.

The CEL is built into the DLC, a small amber light which can be seen by the driver. If you choose cruise control the switch is swapped out with our switch.

If you opt for tap shift the switch must be mounted, I prefer on the column like in the video.

The center console is removed to install the N/S switch and reverse light switch.

That's about it, no need to remove the instrument panel.

I like to run a OBDII gauge like the Aeroforce interceptor. Mount it on top of the column cover and set it up to match the dash colors. It can be used to view live data, check and clear codes, get instant fuel economy, etc.

I also use it for the PRNDL for the six speed.
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Hi again,

I wanted to give you a heads up on the LS kit availability. We hope to ship 5 beta kits in the next few weeks.

The kit will support GM Gen IV LS engines and the 6l80e transmission. AFM/DOD (4cyl mode) and VVT are also supported. With this kit there is no need to relocate the steering linkage, bash the firewall, relocate the battey, etc.... The only fabrication required is removing and replacing the engine frame mounts.

We have decided to offer a Basic kit which will include what you need to get the LS in and running. The Basic kit will retail for $3,295 and will include:
  • LS-JK engine harness
  • GM E38 computer pre-programmed.
  • Motor mount frame set.
  • Alternator bracket set.
  • A/C compressor bracket set.
  • P/S bracket set.
  • Transmission crossmember bracket set.
  • Accelerator position sensor and bracket.
  • Radiator hose set.
  • Aluminum expansion bottle.
  • Transmission cable adaptor bracket.
  • Air Filter and mount.
  • Serpentine belt.
  • LS-JK Harmonic balancer.
  • Emmision kit.
  • Decal set.
  • Instruction manual.

With this kit you wil use the alternator, P/S pump and A/C compressor off your JK. This not only saves $$$ but allows proper integration of the can-bus. We engineered the kit to place these accessories close to the stock location so the original hoses and wiring simply plug in. The A/C lines do require slight mods.

Many hours went into the design of this kit, from the placement of the engine to the most reliable accessory set up. We found the hydraulic engine mounts are a must for AFM and smooth operation. Our prototypes used 1/8" and 3/16" steel brackets for testing, and while there were no failures we are making the production brackets from 1/4" cold rolled steel - CAD designed, water-jet cut, chemically treated and powder coated. Here are a few pics.

Engine mount driver side.


Engine mount driver side bottom.


Engine mount passanger side with Hydraulic mount.
http://www.jkowners.com/forum/pictur...ictureid=10736

P/S bracket set.
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Alternator bracket set.
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A/C compressor mount.
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Transmission mount set.
http://www.jkowners.com/forum/pictur...ictureid=10741

Options will include a heavy duty radiator (Griffin) meant for the LS engine with a steam port; although we find the 5.3 runs cool with the stock radiator in most climates. OE cruise control and 6-speed tap shift are also available. As far as I know we are one of the few companies to fully integrate the 6l80e with the BCM.

We will need to re-program your Jeep NGC4 ECU, if you choose we can supply a new Jeep ECU flashed with your VIN but there will be a core charge.

The stock NVG 241J transfer case may be used with our adaptor. You may choose to get a NVG 241C and add a SYE. Rubicon models cannot use the NVG 241OR at this time. Another option is the Atlas 2 or 4 speed which can be built to spec. and requires no mods.

Most Gen IV LS engines can be used with this kit, we prefer the 5.3 aluminum engine. The 6.2 is a great choice if your JK is loaded down with bumpers, winches, etc.

As a side note the current E-rod package in NOT CARB or US EPA certified for OBD II vehicles, which JK's are. At the same time most Hemi swaps are not CARB or US EPA certified unless they run a calibration from a certified US EPA production vehicle. The E-rod calibration has not been certified in a production vehicle even though the LS-3 is almost identical to the 2010 Camaro. In addition the E-rod package will not support the electronic shifting of the transmission, it is intended to be used with a stand alone transmission controller.

We have designed the kit to be CARB approved if the correct components are selected. I have been a Class 2 Emmision inspector for 16 years and I work closley with the State lab here in Nevada and spent many years in California as a shop owner dealing with the BAR and CARB.

The LS-JK runs great, gets good gas milage, runs cool and is very reliable. Here are some links to early vids while testing Cruise Control and ESP.

‪Jeep JK with Chevy LS engine cruise control‬‏ - YouTube

‪Jeep Wrangler JK LS engine Goodsprings test outside view.‬‏ - YouTube

Thanks and please ask questions

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what about the headers and exhaust system ?
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Will this work on 2doors too? Just in case I hit it big in Vegas!
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"what about the headers and exhaust system ?"

Good timing, were installing the exhaust on a 6.2 now. I'll get some pics tomorrow and post them.

We use 2010 Camaro LS-3 exhaust manifolds. They fit perfect, are cheap (about $90 each) and have no air injection or egr passages.

Passanger side manifolds.


Driver side manifolds.


The pictures show them next to the standard truck manifolds. You can use the truck manifold on the driver side but it's a little tight. On the passenger side the truck manifold dumps out too far rearward and will not clear the firewall.

Other manifolds will work but we find these are the best. Some manifolds, like the Corvette, will not clear the engine mounts since the Corvette was not designed with AFM and runs a small pedestal type mount.

If you want to run headers, shorty headers designed for the Camaro should work.

We run CARB approved Cats with up and downstream O2's, there is plenty of room.

The stock cat back exhaust system works fine with the 5.3; although, there is probably 15-20 hp to be gained with a less restrictive set up.

We will offer a Y pipe to connect to the stock exhaust or any aftermarket JK system.

We hope to offer a 3" system from the Y back soon.

One thing to keep in mind is many 5.3's come with AFM and can sound a little nasely in 4cyl. mode with a 2 chamber flowmaster style muffler. There are free flowing mufflers designed now specifically for AFM engines.

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Will this work on 2doors too? Just in case I hit it big in Vegas!
Again good timing. I just had a two door on the rack taking measurements and saw no reason it will not fit; although, I know it would be tight if you run the 4l60.

The 4l60 is longer than the 6l80 and may hit the fuel tank. With the 6l80 or 6 speed manual I see no problem. Off setting the engine towards the driver side will help but we like the 6 speed anyway.

From an electrical standpoint no problem.

Of coarse we plan to do a two door and will work any bugs out.

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Here are some pics of the exhaust. We buried the one JK in Texas mud so the pipes are a little dirty.


Driver side manifold.


Passenger manifold.


Driver flange.


Crossover pipe.


Driver Cat.


Passenger down pipe.
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Here is the JK-LS wiring harness. It's all new and uses USA Delphi connectors.


If you look closer you will see the connector for the 6l80 transmission.


In this picture you can see the connectors for Variable Valve Timing, Air Fuel Management and the Data Link connector.


What you probably can't see is the breakout for the BCM. As far as I know we are one of the few, if not the only company to offer a 6l80 integrated through the BCM for Tap Shift and Cruise Control.

The harness will support all these features, and if you don't have AFM or Cruise Control you simply seal and tape the connectors off.
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The heavy duty LS radiator differs from a Hemi radiator in a couple ways.

The inlet and outlets were sized for the LS engine. We also made it a double pass radiator so the inlet and outlet are on the same side which fits the truck LS better.


Important for the LS engine to cool right is the steam port, you can see it here.


The LS runs cool, just last week it was 118 degrees at Lake Mead and the JK 5.3 I was driving never went over 208 degrees with the stock radiator. That was fully loaded with family and the A/C blasting.

If you don't choose the heavy duty radiator it's easy to adapt the stock radiator.
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when you get a chance can we see pictures of the engine installed from a under hood perspective. also want to look at teh oil pan for clearance issues ie a d60.

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when you get a chance can we see pictures of the engine installed from a under hood perspective. also want to look at teh oil pan for clearance issues ie a d60.

thanks again

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Sure, over the last year we have set the engine lower and back farther than the first swap. Using the truck oil pan we removed the front springs and set the bump stops down on their axle pads. With a D30 or 44 this leaves almost 1" between the axle housing and oil pan. The aluminum LS weighs a little more than the 3.8 but less than a Hemi.

I like to run a 1 1/2" coil spacer, it levels out the front ride height and gives plenty of clearance to the axle.

A bigger concern for us was the upper control arms touching the bottom of motor mounts on full compression. This was only a problem when running the stock suspension and no lift or spacers. Here is a picture of an early mount with notches. The are no springs in this JK and it is at full compression.

Gen 1 mount.



By moving the engine back and some motor mount mods it's no longer a problem; however, I do recommend some 1 1/2" spacers to level the front end and compensate for the additional weight (even though it's not much).

I'll get some more pics tomorrow and post them.Thanks Robbie.
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robbie again thanks for the quick reply. i will be looking forward to the pics. im running a 4.5" lift i don't imagine i will have a problem with control arm clearance.
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So if I am understanding all this I will be able to puta GMls motor in my JK and still get a sticker?
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will 5.13s be a little overkill with this extra power output? and maybe i missed it, but are you running any larger than 32-33inch tires on any of your rigs?
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So if I am understanding all this I will be able to puta GMls motor in my JK and still get a sticker?
Hi, IM assuming by "a sticker" you mean get emission certification. Both CARB and US EPA allow cross manufacturer engine changes. This covers most of the US and has also been a popular myth.

If I remember NY uses CARB regs, I helped a guy in Rochester once.

We install a "VEC" (vehicle emission certification) sticker to match the engine. It is not required in some states, but it is in others....CA. It also helps any tech who works on the vehicle since it identifies the engine family, size, year, CA or Fed...etc.

I have been a State Certified Class 2 Emission Inspector and Diagnostic Technician for 16 years, I'm not aware of any jurisdiction which does not allow a cross manufacturer swap. This does not mean you shouldn't check.

First, the swap must be done properly with the proper components.

Two, the software must remain in a certified condition.

Three, call your local Emission Lab. If you are in a CARB area call CARB or the BAR. Most people don't know they have phone techs who are trained in engine swaps. Ask questions, they like to help.

Four talk to the DMV lab before the swap so there are no surprises. Tell them what you are doing, they like to be in the loop. You may get different answers to the same question, this is common depending on who you talk to.

In the end it's up to you. I have registered many swaps, including in CA. It's easy if you follow the rules.

Good news in most areas is once certified it gets placed in the DMV database and future tests are routine, no need to apply again.
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will 5.13s be a little overkill with this extra power output? and maybe i missed it, but are you running any larger than 32-33inch tires on any of your rigs?
We ran 35's with 4:11's, no problem on or off road. I would say if you run 37-40" tires I would go 4:56 -5:13. It also depends what you are doing, for mostly DD stay with the taller gear, the V8 torque will make up for it.

Remember the 6.2 has over 400 foot pounds of torque, virtually double the 3.8. Combine this with a 4:1 first gear ratio and that's a lot of torque. Additionally the VVT engines maintain torque throughout the power band.

I like to keep the engine RPM below 2000 rpm at 70 mph, helps mpg.
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Here are some pics that I hope can help you out. We happened to have an 09' Rubicon 5.7 VVT Hemi in the shop so I did some comparisons.

LS oil pan.

Hemi oil pan.


Hemi steering shaft.


LS steering shaft.


Hemi battery tray.


LS battery tray.


Notice this Hemi does not run the C102 connector.


LS does run C102 connector.


This is the clearance of the oil pan with the suspension fully compressed, there are no springs and it is sitting on the bumpstops.



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I am a NY inspector in the hudson valley I know there is a process where you can get it checked by them if need be but what I meant was will I be able to plug in our inspection machine to one of the data link connectors and do a NY emissions inspection sticker?
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I am a NY inspector in the hudson valley I know there is a process where you can get it checked by them if need be but what I meant was will I be able to plug in our inspection machine to one of the data link connectors and do a NY emissions inspection sticker?
You will be able to connect to the ALDL and run an emmision inspection. You will do your bulb check, plug in the analyzer and run the test. If the customer has registered it properly the analyzer should preconfigure for the donor engine. Here is a proper engine change form:


Notice the registration is for a 2008 Wrangler but the engine is a 2009 V8 Chevy. You should be able to plug in and run the test as if this were a 2009 Chevy.

In Nevada we do not functionaly test components such as the gas cap and EGR, some parts of CA does. In that case they would functionally test the components. We also don't run a two speed tail pipe on OBDII vehicles or dyno NOx test, again CA does. In this case those test would be performed as usual.

We do not issue a sticker, we issue a VIR-Vehicle Inspection Report #. The customer can use that # to register the vehicle online, it is considered a certificate of compliance.

We also don't perform a saftey inspection like NY so I can't comment on that.

Even though the USEPA sets standards individual states can add thier own regs.

In Nevada G1 and G2 inspectors are required to know the swap laws, and if there is a question(and there usually is) the customer is sent to the Emission Lab and they issue instructions to the inspector for testing.

Sorry I can't answer your question regarding the sticker, we don't use them.

Thanks Robbie.
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