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Old 04-13-2012, 04:11 PM   #226
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So when the jeep flexes and moves...what happens to the part that is tied into the door? I assume the body and bumper will not always flex exactly the same....this flex gets transmitted to the door and ...it bends?? or is the little tie rod free to move around and compensate for this somehow? I dont get how this could not put stress on the door when off road.
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So when the jeep flexes and moves...what happens to the part that is tied into the door? I assume the body and bumper will not always flex exactly the same....this flex gets transmitted to the door and ...it bends?? or is the little tie rod free to move around and compensate for this somehow? I dont get how this could not put stress on the door when off road.
It's attached by heim joints so there is movement allotted. And since the bumper is attached to the frame if it's moving that much you have bigger problems than the bent tailgate.
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Old 06-15-2012, 06:19 PM   #228
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Any feedback on the bumper. I have just ordered a 2013 4 door and I am thinking the matching rear bumper may be great.
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Mine arrived yesterday.

I already had the Ace rear bumper without the tire carrier, which is an awesome bumper. Found a friend that wanted that one and jumped on this. I wanted to carry my hi-lift Jack when wheeling and install a cb antenna mount. Can do both of these much cheaper with the tire carrier than buying a hi-lift mount and installing the antenna will be a lot easier with the tire carrier as well.

Still working on the 3rd brake light replacement, but will probably go with an ORO Lite Spot. https://secure48.mysecureorder.net/o...l3ecamakobe4r6

Will post up my install and extras over the next two weeks.
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Old 06-16-2012, 03:44 PM   #230
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Has anyone just disconnected the third light and found a full grommet to fill the hole?
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Old 06-17-2012, 07:24 AM   #231
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Mine arrived yesterday.

I already had the Ace rear bumper without the tire carrier, which is an awesome bumper. Found a friend that wanted that one and jumped on this. I wanted to carry my hi-lift Jack when wheeling and install a cb antenna mount. Can do both of these much cheaper with the tire carrier than buying a hi-lift mount and installing the antenna will be a lot easier with the tire carrier as well.

Still working on the 3rd brake light replacement, but will probably go with an ORO Lite Spot. https://secure48.mysecureorder.net/o...l3ecamakobe4r6

Will post up my install and extras over the next two weeks.

Great deal. I have ACE front Stubby and love it and want to match up the rear bumper. Quick question what lights did you install in the rear bumper?
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Old 06-17-2012, 08:09 AM   #232
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In my 3rd month owning my ACE rear bumper. Have had the front for 6 months now. Love them both! The rear bumper is money. Swings open with the taligate and as long as you've dialed in the heim joints and lubed the pivot, it works invisibly whenever you open the tailgate.

Gone wheeling twice with it so far. No rattles, no shimmies, nothing. Just solid performance.

For the grommet issue with the 3rd light, I just cut the wire at the grommet and pulled it thru the back. I then respliced it with my Rock Hard license plate relocation bracket (comes with 3rd brake light and license plate light - see link) and left the grommet there.

http://www.rockhard4x4.com/product_p/rh-4006.htm

I also cut my factory tire carrier bumpers down to match the ACE carrier but left them in place.

The back up lights are just factory fog lamps, like the ones on your front bumper. Check craigslist or classifieds here and on other JK-related forums.

I'm extremely satisfied with my bumper and tire carrier. Nothing but good things to say about it!
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Old 06-17-2012, 06:20 PM   #233
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In my 3rd month owning my ACE rear bumper. Have had the front for 6 months now. Love them both! The rear bumper is money. Swings open with the taligate and as long as you've dialed in the heim joints and lubed the pivot, it works invisibly whenever you open the tailgate.

Gone wheeling twice with it so far. No rattles, no shimmies, nothing. Just solid performance.

For the grommet issue with the 3rd light, I just cut the wire at the grommet and pulled it thru the back. I then respliced it with my Rock Hard license plate relocation bracket (comes with 3rd brake light and license plate light - see link) and left the grommet there.

http://www.rockhard4x4.com/product_p/rh-4006.htm

I also cut my factory tire carrier bumpers down to match the ACE carrier but left them in place.

The back up lights are just factory fog lamps, like the ones on your front bumper. Check craigslist or classifieds here and on other JK-related forums.

I'm extremely satisfied with my bumper and tire carrier. Nothing but good things to say about it!
Great love all my ACE stuff just was curious of any aftermarket fogs that may fit

Appreciate the feedback
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Old 06-17-2012, 06:38 PM   #234
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Great love all my ACE stuff just was curious of any aftermarket fogs that may fit

Appreciate the feedback
There are lots that will work but my favorite are the Rigid industries Dually LED with factory fog brackets
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There are lots that will work but my favorite are the Rigid industries Dually LED with factory fog brackets
I concur. If you want to step it up a bit in the candle power, you can jump to the Rigid Dually D2s.
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Old 06-17-2012, 07:59 PM   #236
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I concur. If you want to step it up a bit in the candle power, you can jump to the Rigid Dually D2s.





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Which brackets are you using?

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Old 06-19-2012, 06:33 AM   #237
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Great deal. I have ACE front Stubby and love it and want to match up the rear bumper. Quick question what lights did you install in the rear bumper?
I installed these. Got them from Auto Zone.



They are driving lights. They do a great job lighting up the trail at night, and are useful on dust bowl runs. Because they are in the bumper, they don't shine into the eyes of the driver behind you.



If you can score the Rigid lights with the brackets, I would suggest that. Ended up fabing my own bracket for these, and used a healthy amount of RTV.
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:45 AM   #238
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They are driving lights. They do a great job lighting up the trail at night, and are useful on dust bowl runs. Because they are in the bumper, they don't shine into the eyes of the driver behind you.
I can vouch for that!


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Old 06-25-2012, 10:03 AM   #239
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Well I got mine in & on. Fit up was pretty good though I'm tempted to put a teflon washer on the spindle to raise it slightly as my hiem joints are rubbing the brackets. I have been working night shift so have not had a chance to talk with Adam yet.

I bought a set of cheap driving lights at Wally World and used stand-offs to mount them in the bumper. I wired the lights off a relay hidden behing the passenger side tail light to power them up automatically when in reverse. Maybe later I'll add a switch to pull them in manually but for now it's a clean install with no new holes in the dash. ( I hate cheap looking switches hanging off stuff)
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:49 AM   #240
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I got mine a few weeks ago and finally had time to install it last week. I love being able to open the tailgate and not having a separate latch for the tire carrier. I ran into a couple of issues. Neither the end of the world. The tire carrier spindle would NOT go into the hole in the bumper more and 1/2 inch. I tried all forms of lubricants etc. Nada. I finally took some fine sandpaper to the bushing in the bumper and finally got it seated. It's REALLY tight. I lubed the spindle with with grease at the zerk fitting...still really snug but better.

I have a 35" tire on a stock wheel. I originally mounted the tire bracket one notch too high. I tried removing the bracket and every one of the allen head mount bolt/nuts were seized solid. A 1/2 impact would not break them lose. I finally had to use a torch and a grinder to cut them off. I have never seen anything like it. I used some grade 8 bolts and nuts to replace those. They weren't cross threaded and tightened OK when I first put them on. I have no idea why they seized like that. No loctite was used.

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I had to make the holes larger to make them fit the way I wanted but no biggie.

Overall I am very happy. I used a Rugged Ridge 3rd brake light bracket and it works great. I just had to trim it where it contacted the top heim joint.

Thanks ACE!!! Always great stuff!
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:17 AM   #241
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ACE Rear Bumper & Tire Carrier Customers,

It has recently been brought to our attention that we have a quality issue with a small sample of our tire carriers spindles.

The Issue
We received a shipment of raw material for the carrier spindle that although had the correct cert; we have now discovered, did not match its actual grade. In short, the supplier mismarked the steel. As a result, the tire carrier spindle for a batch of 10-15 ACE Rear Bumper Tire Carriers that were shipped from late June to early July, is not up to the quality we demand.

Our Response
Since this discovery, we have begun contacting customers whom we believe have been shipped the defective parts and are replacing them with new tire carriers, as well as informing all of you through the Jeep Forums. We would like to ask all ACE Rear Bumper Tire Carrier customers to please take a look and keep an eye on your tire carrier spindle and welds to make sure they donít look compromised.

If you feel you have a defective spindle, please contact me through any of the phone numbers or email below, and we will send you a replacement immediately.

We apologize for this lapse in quality and inconvenience. We pride ourselves on the rigidity and durability of our products, and this is not the way we expect our products to perform. Unfortunately, this was a one-time fluky event, which outside of having a metal testing lab on-site, was beyond our ability to discern.

Thank you for your patience, understanding and business,

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Adam,

Thank you for the post. This is one of those deals that was out of your hands. Thank you and ACE for taking the steps to make this right for the end user... no questions asked! That is why ACE is stand up and people keep coming back for more!

Keep up the great work and quality! Please let us know if there is anything we can do to help...

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Old 07-19-2012, 08:26 AM   #243
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Nice going Adam!

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What are we looking at for estimated wait on these now?

Thanks.

Edit. Nevermind I just called and found out.

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Old 08-06-2012, 09:15 AM   #245
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Woohoo...just got mine ordered. Now the wait....
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What are we looking at for estimated wait on these now?

Thanks.

Edit. Nevermind I just called and found out.
I am wondering the same. From my estimations from the length o buddy of mine took to get his 12-16 weeks. But i hope i am wrong. I ordered mine June 27 from Jason at Krawl.
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I am wondering the same. From my estimations from the length o buddy of mine took to get his 12-16 weeks. But i hope i am wrong. I ordered mine June 27 from Jason at Krawl.
Call ACE direct they are always upfront.
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Old 08-07-2012, 09:56 PM   #248
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There time estimate 6-8 weeks was right on at 6 weeks when I ordered mine in May.
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There time estimate 6-8 weeks was right on at 6 weeks when I ordered mine in May.
Yeah I want to say I ordered mid April and it showed up at my door in between 5 and 6 weeks. Totally worth the wait though. Also Adam has some awesome customer. I had a few issues during the install, wrong washers, slag on the spindle, and me not thinking. A few calls and txts got this all sorted out. New washers showed up within a week, they told me to just chip off the slag with a screw driver (way faster and easier than filing it like I thought I had to), and Adam showed me where I was screwing up the install. Overall great product great customer service.
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