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CAL4WD Show, Reno 2007

Ok here are some pictures from the CAL4WD show in Reno on Feb 16th - 18th 2007.

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2007 JK 4-door 4" of lift 37" tires.






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Totally Off-road (local store and their Jeep) I liked the fenders.




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Some Nth stuff, I like their fenders.



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Finally an image of the ride for one of the nicest guys in off roading.

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Hey I was at the CAL4WD show as well! Unfortunately my friend and I didn't stay too long though. Tried to get info from the RE booth about why they went radius arm on the JK lift or if they had popped any shafts yet with those 37s. The guy didn't seem so knowledgable. Well I guess I will have to catch you at the Reno 4x4 pizza night comming up. You goin?

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Hey I was at the CAL4WD show as well! Unfortunately my friend and I didn't stay too long though. Tried to get info from the RE booth about why they went radius arm on the JK lift or if they had popped any shafts yet with those 37s. The guy didn't seem so knowledgable. Well I guess I will have to catch you at the Reno 4x4 pizza night comming up. You goin?

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just seems that RE took an easy path put and slapped something together for all the shows. most of the JK products are innovative, but that is not.
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I have tried to refrain from saying anything about this lift. Particularly on another board where I would be banned for saying something bad about it. But....

There is no doubt though, that the lift and this JK has been ridden hard and put away wet. But.... the joints are walking out. It is bound up. There is little to no flex in the front, even in a static display. The tires are too big for this lift. 37's could work, with some trimming but advertising it as ready for 37's is inviting troubles. I saw a picture of this vehicle on the trail, it is chewing through tires up front. My guess is it is stressing the joints out pretty good and the links are wearing and it is becoming harder and harder to control on the street.

The routing of the brake lines is scary. Some sort of holding the brake lines in place and away from moving parts would improve the safety of this lift. If you see in the pics the brake lines are already showing signs of wear and when compressed flop around to where they could become hooked or pinched off.

It appears that under full compression the bump stops are not stopping the compression but the shocks are.

The ESP lines have not been extended and on this extension, the lines appear to already to be tight.

And I'm not real wild about the swaybar extension in the back.

But what do I know, I'm not a suspension engineer or guru, nor do I play one on TV.
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just seems that RE took an easy path put and slapped something together for all the shows. most of the JK products are innovative, but that is not.
ok, i'll clarify this as well. RE stuff is great, I run a lot of their parts on my TJ. They have come out with a lot of unique and useful parts for Jeep over the years. I have RE's radius arms up front on my TJ and that set up works great. In the rear however, radius arms mess up with anti-squat.
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Dennis, when you mean messing with anti-squat... do radiums arms increase the % or decrease it? I know a lot of people who are into 4-link configurations aim for quite a bit of anti-squat for stability and suffer in hill climbing ability, but I am not really sure how radius arms fit into the big picture. Higher anti-squat like above 100% will be more stable in off camber situations and for really technical stuff. Lower anti-squat will push the rear down in acceleration allowing greater traction for hill climbs. I'm sure this is just the tip of the ice burg and I am no genius with suspension design. Am I on the right track here or am I off my rocker lol? Sorry to get off topic btw.

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Dennis, when you mean messing with anti-squat... do radiums arms increase the % or decrease it? I know a lot of people who are into 4-link configurations aim for quite a bit of anti-squat for stability and suffer in hill climbing ability, but I am not really sure how radius arms fit into the big picture. Higher anti-squat like above 100% will be more stable in off camber situations and for really technical stuff. Lower anti-squat will push the rear down in acceleration allowing greater traction for hill climbs. I'm sure this is just the tip of the ice burg and I am no genius with suspension design. Am I on the right track here or am I off my rocker lol? Sorry to get off topic btw.

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I'm not a suspension guru either. Here's a post on Pirate that explained the use of radius arms in the rear and it's effect on antisquat. Basically, the antisquat is too high with rear radius arms.

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost....55&postcount=9
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