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HID's Installed + wheelin to test

And Im sure Im gonna get crap for having them on a Jeep . . well . . . They're waterproof digital ballasts and I shouldnt have a problem warrantying them if something goes wrong.

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Looks good, I have 5000k headlights, 5000ks in my Hellas and plan on Three 5000k 8" lights once i do my front bumper...oh yes. let there be light! lol

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Looks good, nothing wrong with upgrading to a good light. I have been wanting to do the same just haven't got around to it.


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What kit did you use?
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Looks good, I have 5000k headlights, 5000ks in my Hellas and plan on Three 5000k 8" lights once i do my front bumper...oh yes. let there be light! lol
Oh I'm just getting started as well lol . . plan opn putting my PIAA 580's on MPRB windshield mounts this w/e . . . then on my eventual mod list is 3x Lightforce 170's (or 2x 240's depending on bumper purchase) and 2x140's for windshield. I have the PIAAs leftover from my truck so thats why they're going on now. Not bad lights but I haver heard of Lightforce before my Jeep

>> EDIT . . the Bumper lights will be HID . .the windshield willl probably be Halogen so i can quickly flip them on /off or flash some one

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I used Galmax . . they're not a big company but they're based out of Miami and more importantly I can get them cost through my friends work
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Oh I'm just getting started as well lol . . plan opn putting my PIAA 580's on MPRB windshield mounts this w/e . . . then on my eventual mod list is 3x Lightforce 170's (or 2x 240's depending on bumper purchase) and 2x140's for windshield. I have the PIAAs leftover from my truck so thats why they're going on now. Not bad lights but I haver heard of Lightforce before my Jeep
Have fun, I'm just too cheap to run a real expensive light. My $55/pair HIDs and decent halogen lights will have to do for awhile. lol

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Hey guys don't feel bad about running cheapie HID lights. I'm running VVE 10,000k in my headlights ($105) along with HIDx 4" HID KCs ($200)....


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Those suckers are blllluueee, don't think the hue hurts the light output? 5000ks kickout awesome

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Those suckers are blllluueee, don't think the hue hurts the light output? 5000ks kickout awesome
I was going for shock & awe

Freaking AZ is sunny from 5am - almost 8:30pm for most of the year so I only get to drive with them on when I am on the trail or for late night beer runs.

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are these a full replacement or did you put HIDs in the stock housing?

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are these a full replacement or did you put HIDs in the stock housing?
stock housing\s for now . . .thinking of Cibies in the future but have many mods id rather see before.
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Pardon the side-question Dan...

Goody, what did you use for rock lights if you don't mind me asking?
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every time i see a thread like this, i want to go out and upgrade my lights to HID's

then i recall a conversation i had with a friend that is a state trooper. "You like them, just be prepared to be pulled over"


So for what its worth I'll stick with my silverstar bulbs
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i had them at one point as well

couldn't stand the glare, and being flashed by everyone

the light output is not right and blinds absolutely everyone on the road

they do look pretty though

i switched to Cibie's a couple of years ago after my HID experiment and haven't looked back since.

if you don't believe me at how annoying they are to everyone on the street have someone drive your jeep and you drive a car in front, see if the glare is tolerable
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looks good guys, im a bit jealous

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every time i see a thread like this, i want to go out and upgrade my lights to HID's

then i recall a conversation i had with a friend that is a state trooper. "You like them, just be prepared to be pulled over"


So for what its worth I'll stick with my silverstar bulbs
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every time i see a thread like this, i want to go out and upgrade my lights to HID's

then i recall a conversation i had with a friend that is a state trooper. "You like them, just be prepared to be pulled over"


So for what its worth I'll stick with my silverstar bulbs
I've had them in all my other vehicles with no problems :shrug: . . . just had to aim them a little. my friend and I dont notice glare problems from it but I have been flashed a couple times. . . . for the most part I do city driving so glare isnt as bad as when I was on 41 in the everglades (2 lane/2way road + pitch black makes even the slightest glare exponentially worse)
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very illegal. and very dangerous. the HID was not meant to be used in a halogen reflector housing. there is way too much glare and no cut off. sure it lights up everything you can see, but they can blind the crap out of oncoming traffic 95% of the time.

HIDs in the proper housing are awesome especially when used with a projector. but the majority are not in the correct housings and are a danger to everyone. it is too easy to buy these lights and they are not illegal in themselves, but when installed into the incorrect housings they are.

read up on hidplanet.com and search haknslash for good information. he has been doing retro projectors for many vehicles for years and does them the right way, ensuring proper adjustment and cutoff.

sorry if i come off a bit harsh, but this is my #1 pet peeve in the automotive world right now.

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very illegal. and very dangerous. the HID was not meant to be used in a halogen reflector housing. there is way too much glare and no cut off. sure it lights up everything you can see, but they can blind the crap out of oncoming traffic 95% of the time.

HIDs in the proper housing are awesome especially when used with a projector. but the majority are not in the correct housings and are a danger to everyone. it is too easy to buy these lights and they are not illegal in themselves, but when installed into the incorrect housings they are.

read up on hidplanet.com and search haknslash for good information. he has been doing retro projectors for many vehicles for years and does them the right way, ensuring proper adjustment and cutoff.

sorry if i come off a bit harsh, but this is my #1 pet peeve in the automotive world right now.
There are always some like you floating about . .truth be told I have installed and have helped install many HID's in factory housings. occasionally you get some glare which can be drastically reduced or eliminated with some aligning . . If you have major glare issues its because the other drivers are inconsiderate or ignorant enough not to aim their headlights.
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very illegal. and very dangerous. the HID was not meant to be used in a halogen reflector housing. there is way too much glare and no cut off. sure it lights up everything you can see, but they can blind the crap out of oncoming traffic 95% of the time.

HIDs in the proper housing are awesome especially when used with a projector. but the majority are not in the correct housings and are a danger to everyone. it is too easy to buy these lights and they are not illegal in themselves, but when installed into the incorrect housings they are.

read up on hidplanet.com and search haknslash for good information. he has been doing retro projectors for many vehicles for years and does them the right way, ensuring proper adjustment and cutoff.

sorry if i come off a bit harsh, but this is my #1 pet peeve in the automotive world right now.
Your point is well taken but I would imagine my Jeep sitting 5 ft off the ground has more potential for damage to others then my lights do. I wish I could fork over the $600+ for those JK projectors but these work for me right now. I'll check out that link you posted so thank you for the info.

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the HID was not meant to be used in a halogen reflector housing.
get your facts straight

HID's were available on many vehicles without projects for a long time

i had some stock on my 02 Maxima, the difference is, the housing were DESIGNED for the pattern an HID bulb puts out
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get your facts straight

HID's were available on many vehicles without projects for a long time

i had some stock on my 02 Maxima, the difference is, the housing were DESIGNED for the pattern an HID bulb puts out
Installing HIDs in any housing designed to use a halogen bulb is no good. Like mentioned before it wasn’t designed to use HIDs and there’s usually a lot of stray light shooting around that can blind on coming traffic.

Yes, there were none projector style housing that had HIDs from the factory but those housing was specially designed for HIDs.

Projectors are just a new efficient designed headlight that’s also compact and can put out a good spread of light. There are also projectors that were designed to use halogen bulbs.

They are trying to do away with the ribbed style lens because it blocked light. Most cars today are using free forming reflectors or projectors to put out maximum light output.

Do you know...In the US not every road sign is lit so manufactures (SAE was also involved) wanted headlights to have 30% of light output to aim high for road signs. With Halogen it wasn’t bright enough to bother most on coming traffic.
When HIDs was first introduced you find them on mostly European cars because over there most road signs are self light so their headlights can concentrate 100% to the ground. Hence the very sharp cut off.
I think there was some sort of loop hole or slight design change for US use.

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Installing HIDs in any housing designed to use a halogen bulb is no good. Like mentioned before it wasn’t designed to use HIDs and there’s usually a lot of stray light shooting around that can blind on coming traffic.

Yes, there were none projector style housing that had HIDs from the factory but those housing was specially designed for HIDs.

Projectors are just a new efficient designed headlight that’s also compact and can put out a good spread of light. There are also projectors that were designed to use halogen bulbs.

They are trying to do away with the ribbed style lens because it blocked light. Most cars today are using free forming reflectors or projectors to put out maximum light output.

Do you know...In the US not every road sign is lit so manufactures (SAE was also involved) wanted headlights to have 30% of light output to aim high for road signs. With Halogen it wasn’t bright enough to bother most on coming traffic.
When HIDs was first introduced you find them on mostly European cars because over there most road signs are self light so their headlights can concentrate 100% to the ground. Hence the very sharp cut off.
Good info :thumbsup:
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Everytime "HID" is mentioned the forum police pop up. I for one have the stock bulbs in my Jeep if I got pulled over. Pain in the ass as it be, I'd swap them out and take what happens. I never get flashed, I never get flipped off. I'd imagine it to be annoying, there are so many vehicles here in Vegas with them in stock housings...mine is just another one the road.

I've had HIDs in my last two vehicles and love them, I'll continue to run 'em too!

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